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DialFforFunky rare
Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 1992 Location: Groningen

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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:43 pm GMT Post subject: Diggity's Revenge! |
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And this time, you'll be facing... The Goblin Horde! Lets see if my version 2 performs better than the first.
Pre-game Setup
| ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ***************** | | Diggity60503
BUA
| | Diggity60503
DUA
| | Diggity60503
Reserve Army
| Diggity60503
Summoning Pool
| * | | Diggity60503
| | Diggity60503
| | Diggity60503
Home Army
| | DialFforFunky's Home
| | Frontier
| | Diggity60503's Home
| | DialFforFunky
Home Army
| | DialFforFunky
| | DialFforFunky
| * | | DialFforFunky
Reserve Army
| | DialFforFunky
Summoning Pool
| | DialFforFunky
DUA
| DialFforFunky
BUA
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diggity60503 common
Joined: 09 May 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Aurora, Illinois

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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:29 pm GMT Post subject: Well... |
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Since all but a couple of my units dies last time, my revenge will hopefully be brought back in the form of the Undead.
Starting with Dragonkin:
2 Dragonhero
1 Dragontroop
3 Dragonspy
1 Dragonscout
2 Dragonmount
1 Dragonfoal
Dragons:
1 Black Wyrm
1 Ivory Wyrm
Terrain:
Minor:
2 Coastland Knolls
1 Wasteland Village
1 Wasteland Bridge
Major:
Home Terrain:
Wasteland Standing Stones
Frontier Terrain:
Coastland City
Armies (taking the 18/17/1 advice):
Horde:
1 Skeleton (1pt)
Home:
1 Minor Death (4pt)
1 Lich (3pt)
1 Heucava (2pt)
3 Zombie (3pt)
2 Wraith (2pt)
2 Apparition (2pt)
1 Skeleton (1pt)
Frontier:
1 Minor Death (4pt)
2 Mummy (6pt)
2 Wight (4pt)
1 Silver Medallion (4pt)
Maneuver Roll for Frontier:
Mummies: Melee
Wight 1: Save
Wight 2: ID Icon (2)
Minor Death: Maneuver (4)
Silver Medallion: Wayfare (4)
10 Maneuver
Assuming I win that roll, I place my Coastland and rolled a 4 - Missile
Home Distance Roll:
Rolled 7 - turn down to 6 for Melle
I think that's everything. _________________ 465 dice and counting...
now 641 and counting...(the wife isn't suspicious yet)...06/05/13
649...6/12/13
Might have an actual addiction...die 1000 Gold Speed Slipper...07/04/13
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diggity60503 common
Joined: 09 May 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Aurora, Illinois

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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:42 pm GMT Post subject: In all fairness... |
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In trying to be as fair as possible, I did not look at ANY of your unit selections prior to hitting submit for my set-up. I had also previous to receiving your post decided that I would use the Undead (I mention this in passing, not because I don't think you think I'm dishonest).
I'm really interested to see how this will go.
If I'm looking at this right, you pretty much have an army made up of Muggers, Wardog Riders and Hedge Wizards, right?
In looking at your Frontier Army, I should easily crush the Maneuver roll getting the terrain and you'll have first move.
As a generic curiosity, I've been assuming you're a male, but have no idea of age, marital status, kids - what have you.
For my part, I'm a 42yo guy, married (16 years this past Friday) with one (currently international boy child) who is hoping the Chicago Blackhawks win the Stanley Cup tomorrow. _________________ 465 dice and counting...
now 641 and counting...(the wife isn't suspicious yet)...06/05/13
649...6/12/13
Might have an actual addiction...die 1000 Gold Speed Slipper...07/04/13
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DialFforFunky rare
Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 1992 Location: Groningen

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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:24 am GMT Post subject: Re: In all fairness... |
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Ok, I've lost a massive post twice now due to firefox crashing. I'm so mad right now!
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DialFforFunky rare
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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:22 am GMT Post subject: Re: In all fairness... |
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Ok, attempt nr. 3...
diggity60503 wrote: | In trying to be as fair as possible, I did not look at ANY of your unit selections prior to hitting submit for my set-up. I had also previous to receiving your post decided that I would use the Undead (I mention this in passing, not because I don't think you think I'm dishonest). |
If we can trust each other on die-rolls, I'm quite sure army construction shouldn't be an issue .
diggity60503 wrote: | If I'm looking at this right, you pretty much have an army made up of Muggers, Wardog Riders and Hedge Wizards, right? |
That's correct.
diggity60503 wrote: | In looking at your Frontier Army, I should easily crush the Maneuver roll getting the terrain and you'll have first move. |
There is a small issue here, as the game usually starts with a horde roll, not a frontier roll. Even though the frontier is affected, the roll takes place in a different location.
Now, it seems like you intended your frontier army as a horde army, so I'm entirely ok with you changing them around. You can even keep or reroll your result if you want.
diggity60503 wrote: | As a generic curiosity, I've been assuming you're a male, but have no idea of age, marital status, kids - what have you.
For my part, I'm a 42yo guy, married (16 years this past Friday) with one (currently international boy child) who is hoping the Chicago Blackhawks win the Stanley Cup tomorrow. |
Its nice of you that you take an interest in the person on the other side of the board, definitely a good thing! I must admit that I already did a bit of research on you, as I looked up your restaurant and probably even spotted you on a youtube video or two.
About me: I'm a 27 year old male. I'm currently struggling to finish my study philosophy, working as a mail man to pay my rent, and spending my remaining time on playing games, a little climbing, and listening to music. There's a picture of me on these boards, maybe I'll look it up for you again, but for now I'll just try to finish this post :/.
Turn Sequence: Diggity60503, DialFforFunky
Pre-game Setup
| ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ***************** | | Diggity60503
BUA
| | Diggity60503
DUA
| | Diggity60503
Reserve Army
| Diggity60503
Summoning Pool
| * | | Diggity60503
| | Diggity60503
| | Diggity60503
Home Army
| | DialFforFunky's Home
| | Frontier
| | Diggity60503's Home
| | DialFforFunky
Home Army
| | DialFforFunky
| | DialFforFunky
| * | | DialFforFunky
Reserve Army
| | DialFforFunky
Summoning Pool
| | DialFforFunky
DUA
| DialFforFunky
BUA
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There is an issue with your dragonkin at the moment, since you are allowed to bring 12 points of health to a 36 point game. Also, I assumed you'd be taking black dragonkin .
As for my horde roll - I'll just stick to the results rather than posting 18 images again...
4 id
8 maneuver
4 melee
3 saves
Result: 12 maneuver
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edit: I did it! Yay! Whoo!
edit 2: ah, I remembered I had a question about the silver medallion as well. Why did you choose it over a bronze or a gold medallion? Both are quite certainly more useful for your army (almost any army in general) as the silver logo doesn't bring anything back form your BUA. _________________ 717 |
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diggity60503 common
Joined: 09 May 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Aurora, Illinois

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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:04 am GMT Post subject: Just when I think I have the hang of it... |
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OK, right...forgot that the Horde army is the one that rolls. Well, my armies are where I wanted then regardless.
So Maneuver for Frontier Terrain choice:
My Horde Army Roll: Skeleton does actually manage to roll 1 Maneuver. So the Skeleton will pray to the darker forces that you roll nothing.
The Frontier decision doesn't influence activity at my Home, so we'll leave that terrain as it is.
Waiting your rolls for your Home and the Frontier Terrain and then it should be my move, right? _________________ 465 dice and counting...
now 641 and counting...(the wife isn't suspicious yet)...06/05/13
649...6/12/13
Might have an actual addiction...die 1000 Gold Speed Slipper...07/04/13
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DialFforFunky rare
Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 1992 Location: Groningen

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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:41 am GMT Post subject: |
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My horde roll was 12, so I get to choose whether to go first or choose terrain. As I am slightly scared of the melee potential of your home army, I choose to go first and let you choose the frontier (you can still pick mine if you want )
My terrain roll - Home:
niiice...
This makes the board:
Turn Sequence: DialFforFunky, Diggity60503
Turn 1
| ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ***************** | | DialFforFunky
BUA
| | DialFforFunky
DUA
| | DialFforFunky
Reserve Army
| DialFforFunky
Summoning Pool
| * | | DialFforFunky
| | DialFforFunky
| | DialFforFunky
Home Army
| | Diggity60503's Home
(Standing Stones) | | Frontier
(City) | | DialFforFunky's Home
(City) | | Diggity60503
Home Army
| | Diggity60503
| | Diggity60503
| * | | Diggity60503
Reserve Army
| | Diggity60503
Summoning Pool
| | Diggity60503
DUA
| Diggity60503
BUA
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note: I assumed you'd still choose your Coastland over my Swampland. It doesn't affect my first turn, but if you'd rather have the Swampland, that's ok as well.
Good luck and have fun!
My first turn
- Spell and effect expiration: none
- Initial Effects Phase: none
- Dragon Attack Phase: none
- First March: @ my home
Maneuver: yes
      
Result: 2 x 2 = 4 maneuver, enough to beat your skeleton. I'll turn the terrain down to 1.
Action: Magic
       
Result: 16 magic, double Id's for 20 magic in total
6 black - Open Grave on my army at your home
4 black - Deadlands on my Home terrain.
5 gold - Transmute Rock to Mud (TRtM) on your army at your home
3 gold - Summon Dragonkin (Scout)
2 gold - Stone Skin on my army at your home
- Second March: @ your home
Maneuver: yes, do you oppose? I assume you do, so:
     
         
Result: 8 maneuver (that's a lot of axes though...)
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diggity60503 common
Joined: 09 May 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Aurora, Illinois

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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:28 am GMT Post subject: Flipped... |
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Unless, I really screwed up, and I'm looking at my set-up post, I think you flipped my Home and Frontier Armies.
And I will keep my Coastland at the Frontier to ensure use of my Minor Terrains.
I don't know if this will change any of your turn.
I will not be on again (at least to move) until about 6 hours from now, which should put you around 1am.
Some luck to you...I'll save best of luck for me.  _________________ 465 dice and counting...
now 641 and counting...(the wife isn't suspicious yet)...06/05/13
649...6/12/13
Might have an actual addiction...die 1000 Gold Speed Slipper...07/04/13
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DialFforFunky rare
Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 1992 Location: Groningen

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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:13 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Oops, I did indeed. Weird. I'm slightly less afraid of your real home army, but I'll keep the rest of my turn the same.
Also: have you already considered a new dragonkin setup?
Turn Sequence: DialFforFunky, Diggity60503
Turn 1
| ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ***************** | | DialFforFunky
BUA
| | DialFforFunky
DUA
| | DialFforFunky
Reserve Army
| DialFforFunky
Summoning Pool
| * | | DialFforFunky
*Open Grave*
*Stone Skin* | | DialFforFunky
| | DialFforFunky
Home Army
| | Diggity60503's Home
(Standing Stones) | | Frontier
(City) | | DialFforFunky's Home
(City)
*Deadlands* | | Diggity60503
Home Army
*TRtM* | | Diggity60503
| | Diggity60503
| * | | Diggity60503
Reserve Army
| | Diggity60503
Summoning Pool
| | Diggity60503
DUA
| Diggity60503
BUA
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TRtM = Transmute Rock to Mud
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diggity60503 common
Joined: 09 May 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Aurora, Illinois

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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:09 pm GMT Post subject: LOL Dragonkin... |
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Apparently the 'kin didn't want to be separated from the family...
Eliminate 2 Dragonspies and a Dragonmount.
As for the Silver Medallion...I have to admit that I'm confused by your comment/question.
Are you asking why I didn't use a different magic item or just a different color medallion? If why not a different magic item, I just wanted to give the medallion a try. If why not a different medallion, I must be missing something, because the information I'm seeing shows all three as identical except for color.
Let me know. Thanks. _________________ 465 dice and counting...
now 641 and counting...(the wife isn't suspicious yet)...06/05/13
649...6/12/13
Might have an actual addiction...die 1000 Gold Speed Slipper...07/04/13
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DialFforFunky rare
Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 1992 Location: Groningen

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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:30 pm GMT Post subject: Re: LOL Dragonkin... |
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I was aiming at the choice of medallion-colour.
diggity60503 wrote: | If why not a different medallion, I must be missing something, because the information I'm seeing shows all three as identical except for color. |
Ah, not quite! Their logos have substantially different effects, depending on the type of metal:
Quote: | SFR/TSR Logo (Bronze Medallion): Normal (magic action); Unique (non-magic action, save, or non-maneuver avoidance)
During a magic action, generates magic results of any color. During any non-magic action, save roll, or non-maneuver avoidance roll, counts as a Cantrip that can cast any color spell from the spell lists (basic or racial).
SFR/TSR Logo (Gold Medallion): Special (any non-maneuver)
During any non-maneuver roll, returns one non-dragonkin buried unit to the DUA or you may immediately bring back up to four health-worth of units from your DUA to the army carrying this medallion.
SFR/TSR Logo (Silver Medallion): Special (any non-maneuver)
During any non-maneuver roll, returns one buried magical item to the army this medallion is a part of or one buried Dragonkin to the summoning pool. |
As you can see, the silver medallion doesn't do a lot for you, as you don't use any other items and you'll need to get your dragonkin buried before it can actually do something. A bronze medallion, however, might give you a neat spell in a pinch (Burning hands on that unit that just rolled 4 melee). The gold logo might be the most brutal of them all, allowing you to simply return 4 health back to life (that's an equivalent of 12 magic!) in an instant, or unbury a buried unit, something almost no other die in the game is capable of.
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diggity60503 common
Joined: 09 May 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Aurora, Illinois

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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:58 pm GMT Post subject: Gotcha! |
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See, I was only looking to the rules on page 45 of the PDF. I totally missed the SAI portion.
I guess that yeah, I'll have to "go for the gold". How long have you been playing? You're very good at this rules stuff. _________________ 465 dice and counting...
now 641 and counting...(the wife isn't suspicious yet)...06/05/13
649...6/12/13
Might have an actual addiction...die 1000 Gold Speed Slipper...07/04/13
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DialFforFunky rare
Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 1992 Location: Groningen

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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:12 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Thanks. My first game must have been in somewhere in the previous century, but I believe 2010 was when I really got back into the game. Though it does help that I've played a slightly similar game on quite a competitive level, and simply love (nice) rulebooks . Also, after a good amount of games, the rules become integrated in the way of thinking about the game - practice helps a lot.
The updated board:
Turn Sequence: DialFforFunky, Diggity60503
Turn 1
*awaiting counter-maneuver at your home*
| ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ***************** | | DialFforFunky
BUA
| | DialFforFunky
DUA
| | DialFforFunky
Reserve Army
| DialFforFunky
Summoning Pool
| * | | DialFforFunky
*Open Grave*
*Stone Skin* | | DialFforFunky
| | DialFforFunky
Home Army
| | Diggity60503's Home
(Standing Stones) | | Frontier
(City) | | DialFforFunky's Home
(City)
*Deadlands* | | Diggity60503
Home Army
*TRtM* | | Diggity60503
| | Diggity60503
| * | | Diggity60503
Reserve Army
| | Diggity60503
Summoning Pool
| | Diggity60503
DUA
| Diggity60503
BUA
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TRtM = Transmute Rock to Mud
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diggity60503 common
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:16 am GMT Post subject: Counter Maneuver at my Home |
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Rolled for 6 Maneuvers (so 0 with TRtM).
Does the TRtM last until the start of your turn or mine? I think yours based on language.
Thanks.
Finally getting to the game after watching my Chicago Blackhawks win the Stanley Cup. _________________ 465 dice and counting...
now 641 and counting...(the wife isn't suspicious yet)...06/05/13
649...6/12/13
Might have an actual addiction...die 1000 Gold Speed Slipper...07/04/13
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DialFforFunky rare
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:43 am GMT Post subject: |
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You got it right: the TRtM lasts until the start of my turn.
- Second March: @ your home
Maneuver: yes, down to 5
Action: Melee
    
          
Result: 7 melee.
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diggity60503 common
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:18 am GMT Post subject: Melee Saves |
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Lich, 2 Apparitions, Zombie, Wraith all roll Melee
Wraith #2 rolls Maneuver
Heucava rolls 2 saves. 2 Zombies and a Skeleton each roll 1 save and the Minor Death rolls ID Icon to save.
8 Saves Total.
We will respond with Melee Attack...
Zombie #1 rolls ID Icon, Zombie #2 rolls 1 Melee, Zombie #3 rolls 2 Melee, Apparition rolls 1 Melee for 5 total Melee.
Minor Death rolls plague (you need save rolls). I'll choose a Wardog Rider as target.
Other units miss.
Awaiting Plague and Save responses... _________________ 465 dice and counting...
now 641 and counting...(the wife isn't suspicious yet)...06/05/13
649...6/12/13
Might have an actual addiction...die 1000 Gold Speed Slipper...07/04/13
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DialFforFunky rare
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:43 am GMT Post subject: |
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- Plague save rolls:
Wardog Rider:
Wardog Rider:
Mugger:
Mugger:
Mugger:
Result: 2 Wardog Riders and 2 Muggers are sent to the DUA.
- Save roll:
     
     
Result: 7 + 1 (Stoneskin) = 8 saves. Barely made it - this is not going as well as I hoped it would...
- Reserve Phase:
Retreat: Wardog riders from my home and the frontier move to reserves.
- Spell and effect expiration: none
End my turn
Turn Sequence: DialFforFunky, Diggity60503
Turn 1
| ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ***************** | | DialFforFunky
BUA
| | DialFforFunky
DUA
| | DialFforFunky
Reserve Army
| DialFforFunky
Summoning Pool
| * | | DialFforFunky
*Open Grave*
*Stone Skin* | | DialFforFunky
| | DialFforFunky
Home Army
| | Diggity60503's Home
(Standing Stones) | | Frontier
(City) | | DialFforFunky's Home
(City)
*Deadlands* | | Diggity60503
Home Army
*TRtM* | | Diggity60503
| | Diggity60503
| * | | Diggity60503
Reserve Army
| | Diggity60503
Summoning Pool
| | Diggity60503
DUA
| Diggity60503
BUA
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TRtM = Transmute Rock to Mud
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:35 am GMT Post subject: Turn 1 |
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First March:
Maneuver Roll at my Home:
Wraith #1: 1 Maneuver, Wraith #2: 2 Maneuvers, Zombie #1: ID Icon, Heucava: ID Icon...total Maneuvers 6.
Do you oppose? _________________ 465 dice and counting...
now 641 and counting...(the wife isn't suspicious yet)...06/05/13
649...6/12/13
Might have an actual addiction...die 1000 Gold Speed Slipper...07/04/13
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DialFforFunky rare
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:43 am GMT Post subject: |
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Actually, I think I will not oppose this time.
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:53 am GMT Post subject: |
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I bring in Minor Terrain Village and roll: Double Saves
I move Home Terrain up to 6
I roll for Melee:
Minor Death: ID Icon (4)
Lich: Melee (3)
Heucava: Melee (2)
Zombie #1: ID Icon (1)
Zombies #2 & #3: Melee (1 each)
Skeleton: Melee (1)
Wraith #1 & Apparition #1: Melee (1 each)
Wraith #2 & Apparition #2: Maneuver and Save
15 total damage _________________ 465 dice and counting...
now 641 and counting...(the wife isn't suspicious yet)...06/05/13
649...6/12/13
Might have an actual addiction...die 1000 Gold Speed Slipper...07/04/13
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