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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:10 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

NOPE... Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:53 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chuck, I'm fairly sure I got this right, but in a starter its:
25% ivory wyrm
25% ivory drake
5% of each of the other 10, right?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:42 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

cliffwiggs wrote:
Chuck, I'm fairly sure I got this right, but in a starter its:
25% ivory wyrm
25% ivory drake
5% of each of the other 10, right?


If this is true, this explains why, of all the starters i have gotten not one has had a black dragon in it either wyrm on drake.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:50 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends. What it was supposed to be was be was a 19% chance of any color of an elemental dragon, and a 9% chance of an ivory (equal chance between drake and wyrm). Note 1% rounding error. That is the distribution of the Undead/Feral. What happened in the other starters is 50% chance of an ivory, and 10% chance of any color of an elemental dragon (equal chance between drake and wyrm). So to be really true to the actual starters, you have to make the distinction.

Exact calculations:
Undead/Feral: Ivory: 1/11, Black, Blue, Gold, Green, Red: 2/11
Other starters: Ivory: 5/10, Black, Blue, Gold, Green, Red: 1/10
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:00 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

chuckpint wrote:

Exact calculations:
Undead/Feral: Ivory: 1/11, Black, Blue, Gold, Green, Red: 2/11
Other starters: Ivory: 5/10, Black, Blue, Gold, Green, Red: 1/10


I'm nothing if not anal-ly exact...

So the other starters were already correct and the UD/FE starter now has a separate distribution for dragons from the others.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:33 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It must be working right...I never did get an Unseelie. Laughing Razz Cool
Took me 10 clicks today to pull one.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:59 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must be working, after 12 pulls on Swamp Stalkers, Frostwings, Scalders, and Treefolk:
No Ormyrr
No Frost Ogre or Magi
1 Unseelie, no Inferno
3 Unicorns
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:02 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pulled a dwarf kicker where all the commons were footmen. That looked a little strange, but when pulling 4 dice from a pool of 5; there are bound to be a lot of duplicates. this is just the outside range.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:06 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

cliffwiggs wrote:
I pulled a dwarf kicker where all the commons were footmen. That looked a little strange, but when pulling 4 dice from a pool of 5; there are bound to be a lot of duplicates. this is just the outside range.


But not unusual. For the longest time, I had something like 9 light melee and 5 missile dwarf commons, and none of the others. I now have 2 melee and 2 cavalry because I traded for somebody's small DD collection, but I still don't have any magic dwarves.

In my first undead starter, I got 3 light melee uncommons.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:15 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took me 37 times to get an unseelie
Took me 102 times to get a unicorn (alas it seems like I'll never own the unicorn / my nemesis dice!)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:23 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthias Maccabeus wrote:
Took me 102 times to get a unicorn (alas it seems like I'll never own the unicorn / my nemesis dice!)
Wow, that's a lot. The ajax action uses a current timestamp to prevent the client browser from caching the result. If you are clicking too fast then it may be updating the screen with a cached result and not actually traveling to the server to generate a new pack. or maybe you and DDicer can battle for the unluckiest person when it comes to unicorns.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:41 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

cliffwiggs wrote:
Matthias Maccabeus wrote:
Took me 102 times to get a unicorn (alas it seems like I'll never own the unicorn / my nemesis dice!)
Wow, that's a lot. The ajax action uses a current timestamp to prevent the client browser from caching the result. If you are clicking too fast then it may be updating the screen with a cached result and not actually traveling to the server to generate a new pack. or maybe you and DDicer can battle for the unluckiest person when it comes to unicorns.


took me 8 pulls to get a unicorn Smile

20 pulls to get a frost ogre
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:46 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just opened a case of Treefolk (real product not simulated). Here's one thing that Cliff's on-line thing won't do: One box had 2 rares and only 1 uncommon.

Monsters were a bit off: 5 Satyrs, 2 Redwoods, 2 Strange Vines, 0 Darktrees, 3 Unicorns.

5 of the 13 rares were Oak Lords, only one Noble Willow.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:57 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow from all the tree folk kickers i got i have only 1 oaklord and 4 noble willows
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:29 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

It took me 4 cases (real product) of Firewalkers before I got my first Pheonix. Can't say I was amused but then I guess that is how a collectible game is supposed to work.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:46 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't need to do this, but someone mentioned it and it bugged me all day.

I added the new format of starter to the product simulator so you can see what types of things you might get from it...

wow this was a lot of mages...

Coastland Standing Stone
Flatland City
Highland City
Swampland City
Phoenix
Fireshadow
Ashbringer
Firestormer
Nightsbane
Firemaster
Firemaster
Firemaster
Shadowchaser
Guardian
Sunburst
Sunburst
Firestarter
Firestarter
Firestarter
Firestarter
Death Wyrm
Death Wyrm
Water Drake
Ivory Wyrm
Unicorn
Redwood
Oak Lord
Eldar Dryad
Oak
Oak
Oak
Willow
Nymph
Oakling
Willowing
Hamadryad
Hamadryad
Hamadryad
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