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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10783 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:25 am GMT Post subject: |
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I have units in reserves, but you have no dead. so no mutation.
start of your turn the dragon will attack.
Death Wyrm - 0 Belly
*sigh* _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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reeser60504 dragonsteed
Joined: 05 Oct 2014 Posts: 71 Location: Aurora, IL

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:40 pm GMT Post subject: Sigh of Relief for the Belly Dancing Dragon! |
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Beginning Phase:
Expire Effects: None
Racial Abilities Step: None
Eighth Face Step: None
Dragon Attack Phase:
Army Phase:
First March: Campaign Army at the Frontier
Maneuver: No Attempt
Actions:
Melee, Missile, Magic:
Total Magic 8: (Palsy expired at beginning or your turn)
Summon your Death Wyrm from Frontier to Your Home Terrain
Second March: My Horde Army at your Home
Maneuver:
Total Maneuvers: 9
Your response:
Turn Up to 3 if you fail or do not oppose
Actions:
Melee, Missile, Magic:
Total Magic: 7
Summon My Death Drake from My Reserves to Your Home Terrain
End Phase:
Reinforce Step: Two Bog Adepts to Frontier from Reserve
Retreat Step: My Horde Army at Your Home Retreats to the Reserve
Expire Effects Step: None
Turn Sequence: Cliff, Steve
| ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ***************** | | Cliff
BUA
| | Cliff
DUA
| | Cliff
Reserve Army
| Cliff
Summoning Pool
| * | | Cliff
| | Cliff
| | Cliff
Home Army
| | Steve's Home
| | Frontier
| | Cliff's Home
| | Steve
Home Army
| | Steve
| | Steve
| * | | Steve
Reserve Army
| | Steve
Summoning Pool
| | Steve
DUA
| Steve
BUA
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Dragon Attack for My Drake at Your Home:
Total: 8 Points of Damage and My Drake will fly away home (pending your attack). |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10783 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 9:15 am GMT Post subject: |
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This is why I don't trust dragons. the belly is too devastating to do no damage. I should've just fingered two units. *sigh*
I think I have the right visualization of the board.
counter maneuver: 2, so it goes to three.
Rolling my wyrm against myself.
Death Wyrm - 6 Claw
So 8 and 6.
Army response against the dragon
Dracolich - 4 Magic
Lich - 4 Cantrip
Heucuva - 3 Magic
Heucuva - 2 Save
Wraith - 2 Maneuver
Apparition - 2 Magic
Apparition - 1 Melee
Apparition - 1 Save
Apparition - 1 Save
A cantrip, 4 saves, 1 melee
The Lich turns his face from the two elemental beasts tearing his fledgling apprentices into shreds so small they will never revive. Squinting into the distance he can almost image he can see the smile on that slimy Bog adepts face, or at least what constitutes for a face. He raises his fist, palm up, arm straight and points it towards the enemy mage. As the dragons loom over him, he slowly raises one finger towards the sky and releases his power one last time.
(FoD a Bog Adapt at the frontier).
Ten damage, so 6 health survive. The dracolich and a Heucuva.
The drake flys away to your reserves.
First march at my home
Unopposed maneuver down to 2 (why not)
Roll for magic: 0
Give them a break, they've had a hard day.
Second march, unopposed capture the 8th face (why not)
Magic: Skeletal Steed - 4 ID
Plenty of dead, so it doubles to 8. (Good horsie)
Resurrect two apparitions.
Reinforce the Wraith to your home.
Retreat the apparitions and dragonlich and heucuva to reserves.
EOT.
let's go out with a bang. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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reeser60504 dragonsteed
Joined: 05 Oct 2014 Posts: 71 Location: Aurora, IL

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 8:51 am GMT Post subject: Hmmm... |
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So, in getting ready for my turn, I think you had a math error on the resolution to the dragon attacks.
You indicated "Ten damage, so 6 health survive. The dracolich and a Huecuva."
However, you only rolled 4 saves against 14 damage, so wouldn't only 4 health survive? Or, is there a funky Undead thing that I missed.
I was trying to construct the board and you have no units in the DUA at the start of your turn.
The Wraith that was there you had resurrected prior to my throwing the dragons at you.
So, I don't think you can do the stepped damage.
Let me know.
Thanks.
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10783 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 2:11 pm GMT Post subject: |
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No step damage was possible, thats why i didn't do it.
I started with 16 health in my army.
The dragons together did 14 damage.
I generated 4 saves.
14 - 4 = 10 damage left.
16 health - 10 damage = 6 health left. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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reeser60504 dragonsteed
Joined: 05 Oct 2014 Posts: 71 Location: Aurora, IL

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 10:47 pm GMT Post subject: Ahhhhh... |
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Well, I'm glad I was right about the Stepped Damage mechanic. If I only could have "mathed" right, I would have seen how you too the damage.
After all was said and done, I think I've got the correct view of the board. Can't visualize it without something and didn't have the time to pull out the dice.
I'm going to leave it here now. Review it again with eyes more wide open and then figure out what I'm going to do.
Thanks. Obviously, if I missed something let me know.
Turn Sequence: Cliff, Steve
| ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ***************** | | Cliff
BUA
| | Cliff
DUA
| | Cliff
Reserve Army
| Cliff
Summoning Pool
| * | | Cliff
| | Cliff
| | Cliff
Home Army
| | Steve's Home
| | Frontier
| | Cliff's Home
| | Steve
Home Army
| | Steve
| | Steve
| * | | Steve
Reserve Army
| | Steve
Summoning Pool
| | Steve
DUA
| Steve
BUA
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10783 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 6:48 am GMT Post subject: |
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I've been so slammed (you can see how slow I post) that I'm willing to accept this as the current state even if it's slightly off.
I'm in a losing position, but I'm curious to see how it plays out. It should be short and bloody. I'm not the type to retreat and try to slowly recover while you FoD me. One big brawl and if it's hopeless I'll concede.
I ran a risk on the dragon and it betrayed me. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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reeser60504 dragonsteed
Joined: 05 Oct 2014 Posts: 71 Location: Aurora, IL

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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 10:33 am GMT Post subject: Feel your slammin' |
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Slammed over here too. The 18yo graduates next Saturday. So if I'm not working then I'm cleaning or fixing something here at the house. Plus, he's in band and choir, so 3 concerts in the last two weeks, plus I'm in charge of a fundraiser tomorrow night.
Steady as she goes is the motto. Oh ya, and as a Mother's Day gift to my wife, I'm taking her to see Sound of Music and planting (two definitely NOT my things).
I haven't responded with my turn, mostly, cause I'm still thinking about what the best move. Having fun tho. Thanks. |
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reeser60504 dragonsteed
Joined: 05 Oct 2014 Posts: 71 Location: Aurora, IL

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 10:27 pm GMT Post subject: Finally a moment to breathe... |
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Beginning Phase:
Expire Effects: None
Racial Abilities Step: Mutate, targeting your two Apparitions in the Reserve
Your roll to Save... |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10783 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:02 am GMT Post subject: |
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Apparition - 1 Melee
Apparition - 1 Save
One save, one dead. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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reeser60504 dragonsteed
Joined: 05 Oct 2014 Posts: 71 Location: Aurora, IL

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:23 pm GMT Post subject: Right! |
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Turn Sequence: Cliff, Steve
| ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ***************** | | Cliff
BUA
| | Cliff
DUA
| | Cliff
Reserve Army
| Cliff
Summoning Pool
| * | | Cliff
| | Cliff
| | Cliff
Home Army
| | Steve's Home
| | Frontier
| | Cliff's Home
| | Steve
Home Army
| | Steve
| | Steve
| * | | Steve
Reserve Army
| | Steve
Summoning Pool
| | Steve
DUA
| Steve
BUA
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Magic: None Thinking that statistically, I should have gotten a couple IDs.
End Phase:
Reinforce Step: All Units in the Reserves head to their Home to lay siege to the foul and rotting invaders.
Retreat Step: None
Expire Effects Step: None |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10783 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:16 am GMT Post subject: |
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2 d10 and 8 d6 - odds of getting no ID's
9^2*5^8/10^2*6^8 = about 19%? that sounds high.
do I need to make it a combination? That gives basically 0%, thats not right either. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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Dolus rare
Joined: 07 Sep 2011 Posts: 1256 Location: San Diego, CA

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:29 am GMT Post subject: |
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The math is right. 19% chance of no IDs. 81% chance of at least 1 ID.
If you look at the percentile chance of no IDs for 1 die, then 2, then 3, all the way down to 8, it's more believable when yo see the number. _________________ Collection |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10783 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:03 am GMT Post subject: |
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Let's do this.
Magic in Reserves
Dracolich - 4 Fly
Heucuva - 2 Magic
Apparition - 2 Magic
Resurrect the dead undead guy into a living undead guy.
Melee in the swamp!
Skeletal Steed - 4 Melee
Ghost - 3 Save
Wight - 2 Melee
Wight - 2 Melee
Wraith - 1 Melee
Wraith - 1 Save
Wraith - 1 Save
9 that should be easy.
let's see what your counter attack looks like. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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reeser60504 dragonsteed
Joined: 05 Oct 2014 Posts: 71 Location: Aurora, IL

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:14 pm GMT Post subject: Weekend |
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Not sure when I'll around to this turn. Final countdown to son's graduation and party is on...
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10783 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 2:16 pm GMT Post subject: |
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No worries. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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reeser60504 dragonsteed
Joined: 05 Oct 2014 Posts: 71 Location: Aurora, IL

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 10:54 pm GMT Post subject: Save |
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Any preference on the Wraith or Apparition to be resurrected to Reserves?
Save roll versus 9 Melee:
I count 14.
Counter Attack:
So...in a friendly gesture, my Swamp Beast "Waves" at you.
4 Wave
6 Melee
4 Poison - Target the Minor Death. |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10783 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 8:52 am GMT Post subject: |
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not sure it matters, but I had that wraith being resurrected a few turns ago. so I only had one dead unit to choose from. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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