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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:28 am GMT    Post subject: Team Game Reply with quote

Shizzle and I are signed up for the Team tourney at Gen Con. I'd like to try that out with 2 other players. It would have to be players that post on a fairly consistent basis. I've played enough games with people that don't post for weeks, months and it's not worth it.

Anybody up for it? I believe it's a sealed event, so I'd like to copy that the best we can as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:59 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, I'm up for it! What are the rules for the multiplayer though? Kind of like a free for all where 2 players simply do not attack each other? And what races will be available?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:11 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Link for listing

https://gencon.com/events/40782


Description in SFR tourney rules

4.1.11. Team Tournament
Here, a game is played between two teams of two players each. In determining the order of play, the player with the highest horde roll decides if he or she wants to go first or select the frontier terrain. If that player decides to go first, the player on the opposing team that had the highest horde roll would go second, then alternate players from both teams for third and fourth. If the player with the highest horde roll decides to choose the frontier terrain, then he or she would go second and the player on the opposing team that had the highest horde roll would go first. Again, alternate players from both teams for third and fourth. Magic is also different than standard rules. You may throw friendly spells on your partner’s armies and units as if they were your own. If a spell would normally bring components into your army, instead they join your partner’s army at that terrain (such spells cannot be cast in reserves). If your partner does not have an army at that terrain, then those units form a new army. You may not cast any spells on your partner's army/units/components that are hostile (i.e. spells you can't cast on yourself).

We've played a few times at our game nights, but I'm still a bit unclear on a few things so that's why I want to run a play through (with chuck watching) to make sure we are doing things correctly. As far as races available, I'm under the impression they all are (except perhaps Eldarim)


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:55 pm GMT    Post subject: Team Game Reply with quote

I'm interested. I've never played this manner of team format, which sounds more like a "tag-team" match.

I haven't played "Team" games much, but the ones I did were more like one-on-one games with both players of a side going at the same time (one calling the First March, the other calling the Second March, but both players rolling their own dice at the same location for the maneuver and action). Each player on a side used a different race, so I guess you could also call this manner of playing an "Alliance Match".
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:07 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK!!

So I'm assuming each player gets 2 kickers (30 health) + 2 random dragons and terrains. Cliff, is that correct?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:08 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got this from cliif in the gen con thread.

Its not kickers, it is a two-player starter. So the options will be ud/fe and am/ss and the 'new without box' references the possiblity of using the sealed polybags of other races if I find any.

I expect the specific starter will be random for each player.


I don't really want us to just have the 2 choices so is everybody OK if I go with 2 random kickers for each person + 2 random terrains and dragons? Making it a 30 point game.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:11 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

im cool with that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:55 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do we have any choice of what races the kickers would be - or is this a rotating selection from among 8 random kickers?

One option I'll throw out for consideration is to have each player choose two candidate kickers, list the dice in each kicker, then rotate selecting the kickers. Same with dragons (but start with the 2nd player), and terrains (but start with 3rd player). Then determine the teams (let 4th player choose his partner).
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:52 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just going to make it all random (since that's what it looks like it's going to be for gen con).

I'll use the online product simulator and random number generator (I will include all races except eldarim). I was going to wait til Thur and have Shizzle be an "eye" witness so nobody says hey how did MAtthias get a unicorn in his random draw... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:22 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait are we doing random teams?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:30 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you are doing random random.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:02 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shizzle wrote:
wait are we doing random teams?


If we are I am fairly confident we will randomly pair us up... Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:42 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthias Maccabeus wrote:
I was just going to make it all random (since that's what it looks like it's going to be for gen con).

I'll use the online product simulator and random number generator (I will include all races except eldarim). I was going to wait til Thur and have Shizzle be an "eye" witness so nobody says hey how did MAtthias get a unicorn in his random draw... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:20 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the late reply, some transportation issues prevented me from reaching a pc today. But I'm fine with whatever comes my way in terms of dice.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:02 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan -
Highland Tower / Swampland Tower
Red Wyrm / Gold Wyrm

Lava Elves -
Rakshasa
Assassin
Scorpion Knight
Scorpion Knight
Spider Rider
Bladesman
Bladesman
Adept

Treefolk -
Strangle Vine
Lady Nereid
Oak
Pine
Oakling
Oakling
Oakling
Willowing

Funky -
Coastland Standing Stone / Flatland Temple
Ivory Wyrm / Blue Wyrm

Coral Elves -
Sprite Swarm
Herald
Courier
Courier
Fighter
Guard
Guard
Bowman

Dwarves -
Roc
Warlord
Lizard Rider
Thaumaturgist
Pony Rider
Sentry
Theugist
Crossbowman

Matthias -
Flatland Tower / Flatland Standing Stone
Black Drake / Blue Wyrm

Goblins -
Shambler
Filcher
Wolf Rider
Ambusher
Wardog Rider
Trickster
Pelter
Pelter

Coral Elves -
Gryphon
Herald
Courier
Conjurer
Fighter
Guard
Evoker
Bowman

Shizzle -
Swampland Standing Stone x 2
Black Drake / Black Wyrm

Treefolk -
Darktree
Noble Willow
Oak
Willow
Nymph
Nymph
Oakling
Pineling

Undead -
Dracolich
Death Knight
Revenant
Spectre
Apparition
Skeleton
Wraith
Wraith

And away we go!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:30 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just FYI - Shizzle and I will be gone til late Sun afternoon.

Home - Flatland SS
Pelter

Frontier - Flatland Tower
Campaign army -
Shambler
Filcher
Trickster
Pelter
Conjurer
Fighter
Evoker
Bowman

Horde -
Gryphon
Herald
Courier
Ambusher
Wolf Rider
Wardog Rider
Guard

Horde Roll -

Ambusher: 3 Melee
Courier: 2 Melee
Gryphon: 4 Melee
Guard: 1 Maneuver
Herald: 3 Maneuver
Wardog Rider: 1 Maneuver
Wolf Rider: 2 Melee

5 Total
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:09 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few questions about things I just realized:

- are you allowed to secretly discuss construction?
- are the winning conditions considered per player or per team? (I suppose the former)


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:55 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Per player.

You mean with your partner? Absolutely!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:39 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good, excellent! I'll be doing a little scheming then, and post my deployment as soon as possible.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:46 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

home swamp ss
pineling

campaign swamp ss
draclich
death knight
revenant
spectre
oak
apparition
skeleton

horde
darktree
noble willow
willow
oakling
nymph x 2
wraith x 2

horde roll
Darktree: Surprise
Noble Willow: 2 Melee
Nymph: 1 Melee
Nymph: 2 Maneuver
Oakling: 1 Melee
Willow: 3 Save
Wraith: 1 Melee
Wraith: 1 ID
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