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shepdog69 · Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:18 pm GMT Post subject: Burying units

I played a game tonight using the 3.0 rules, and we noticed something - there are no longer a myriad of spells available to bury enemy units. Was this intentional? It seems to drag the game out longer (the one I played tonight was 2 hours). It would seem there would be an elemental spell for this.

Thanks,

Dan

cliffwiggs · Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:30 am GMT Post subject:

I would say yes and no.

There was a clear direction to give a theme to each color of magic related to its magic. so yes, it was removed from all colors except for black.

over the years, burial became so common that un-bury (which was originally intended to be impossible was starting to become more common. so that had to be reset. burial was restricted to a death and SAI effect and intended to be 'stronger'.

however, i think it was unintentional that only one spell exists (soiled ground) that can bury. We know that spells are not 'done' and there is a planned release to address them again. At that time I'm strongly considering reintroducing something like ashes to ashed, but possibly as a higher cost.

To dig into your game, I take it that you had a lot of resurrection. was it a passive/turtle game (i.e. two people each got an 8th and no one went to the 3rd terrain?) If you had had those other spells, would you have actually used them or was there always something else (like dragons) that you would have spent the magic on instead?
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shepdog69 · Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:36 am GMT Post subject:

We didn't both have an 8th face. We were fighting over one, and both of us had mages pursuing each other on a highlands terrain. The last terrain was a middle highlands. Part of the time issue was a lack of familiarity with the 3.0 spells, and no cheat sheets to reference. There was a lot of skirmishing though, and casualties were low in general, and kept getting resurrected. Our dragon rolls were pretty pathetic most of the time.

I think we were both thinking back to a slow permanent whittling away of enemy forces through burying. I agree that no "bringing back" of buried units should be possible. It might be good for everyone to have a version of a burying spell, with a higher cost to balance it out as an option.

Looking forward to 3.1 rules

cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:46 am GMT Post subject:

ok, so you had very low casualties and were looking for a way to make them 'stick'.
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shepdog69 · Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:18 pm GMT Post subject:

Pretty much. There were a couple of occasions where casualties were heavier, but over time they were fully recovered.