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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:45 pm GMT    Post subject: Storing Dragon Diceā„¢ Reply with quote

This isn't so much a question for help, I just figured we could all share our ideas on how we store our Dragon Diceā„¢.
Or maybe there's "The Way To Do It" and I just need help with that. Wink

So far, I like getting tackle boxes(not used, of course.) The kind that come with multiple smaller sealed plastic trays in them. There's a real handy one at Wal-Mart right now(the larger version) that is essentially a square "bucket" with a carrying handle, and four of these trays that slide inside nicely and are held in place with grooves. Costs about $12-15 I think, which may be more than some want to spend. The individual trays all have sturdy snap/lock mechanisms to keep the trays from opening and spilling all your dice out. Don't get the smaller one, though; the handle isn't held in place very well, and the weight of the dice will cause one of the handle connectors to slip out of place and dump the trays on the ground. (Nice, sturdy trays.)
It's too big to take to a con probably, but perfect for taking to a buddy's house and having enough dice to build whatever army you desire.

Anyway, whatever people store them in, how do you store them? I like to take between 2-4 races, and just throw all the magics(c, uc, r, and whichever monster goes best with a magic theme) in one slot/compartment on the tray, all the heavy in another, etc. It doesn't look very pretty or orderly, but when I want a common goblin magic unit(sorry, I don't have the names memorized yet) I just go to the magic compartment and fish for the smallest goblin die I can find. With the terrains, I decided to put the minor terrains and majors together by ID facing, so that all the city and village ones are in a compartment, regardless of color.

Is this how everyone else does it? What works best for keeping the dice organized, but also keeping them easy to find when you need to pull 3 of X and 2 of Y out to tweak your army that just lost?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:44 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a similar system to yours. First of all, I have a 66 qt. tub that holds the whole collection, of what probably is over 1000 dice. I've taken inventory, but I've never totaled them. In any case, I use ziplock bags to store my dice. I put each race in a large bag, and have smaller individual bags inside for heavy, light, missle, cavalry, magic, and monsters. SOme of my bags are quite heavy, such as those for the original four races, and others, like the Treefolk and Swamp Stalkers are quite light. I do have a minimum of 60 hp (or 4 kickers) for each race. My dragonkin, artifacts, and magic weapons are divided by color only, and my terrains are divided by the eighth face icons. The books are also carefully divided into bags.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:03 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do what you will eventually start doing once you get above a certain number of dice. We all seem to end up at the same place if we keep buying enough...

Its in the tackle aisle. The boxes are usually 18inches by 12 inches by 2 inches. (I don't have them at work so I'm estimating). You can customize it to be anywhere from 4 large 'area's to 32 tiny area's.

I have each of mine setup for 24 areas of various sizes. Each box holds a single race. Each 'area' holds multiples of a single die.

I have ... 14 of these boxes right now, plus 6 smaller ones to hold Magestorm(one color per box) and terrains. It takes a dolly to move them all at the same time.

So when I want a single die. I go to the box that contains that race, I go down the rows to the Type I want, then across the columns to the rarity I want.

I've never counted but I estimate I have... atleast 2600 dice not counting Magestorm, dragons, terrains. I might top 3000 if I counted them all.

When my wife first saw Will he had his dolly of dice. I told her I wanted to learn to play 'this' game. She said ok, but we are never having that many dice. I PROMISED! ... I still don't have as many as he did that day (but I'm only off by a few hundred).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:58 pm GMT    Post subject: Re: Storing Dragon Diceā„¢ Reply with quote

deputyfife wrote:
This isn't so much a question for help, I just figured we could all share our ideas on how we store our Dragon Diceā„¢.


A couple of years ago I found two big tackle boxes at Wal-Mart. Enormous doesn't begin to describe them. Each contains four clear plastic boxes with separators that slide into the front of the box (which closes), and another storage area on top that holds ten (count 'em, 10!) smaller boxes. Close the lid, and there are two slots for two more of the small boxes right on the lid! Those contain my major terrains and dragons. I only bought one at first, which went for $33. It wasn't big enough.

So I went back for a second (much to my wife's annoyance), and managed to squeeze enough dice into it to have a nice assortment of EVERYTHING! One box holds all of the races, promo dice, rulebooks, extra terrains and monsters. The other contains all dragonkin, magestorm items, minor terrains, and various other items like playmats, bags of spare racial dice, screens, the Battlebox playing board, and printouts of new effects and rules.

All in all, there are almost 3000 dice between the two. Each of them weighs about 40 pounds. Great for lugging around the collection, but murder on the back!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:54 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finding ways to store my dice has been a constant challenge since day one. When I started out, I just used the starter boxes to hold my dice. Soon I changed over to the next level: ziplock baggies. I used six large bags to hold the varies types (heavy, light, missile, calvalry, magic, monsters). As the number of races grew, it became harder to find the particular dice I needed, so I started using smaller baggies to seperate the races within the large bags. The only problem with this method is that it becomes a hassle to get at the dice you want. So now I am at the third level: tackle boxes.

I've got a pretty good system going right now. I use one smaller box to house my terrains/minor terrains. A midsized box holds my dragonkin seperated into four groups: heavy, light, calvalry, champions. The rest of my collection is in six larger boxes. Like the baggie system, each box holds one the types of dice. Each box is divided into 14 equal sized compartments (3" x 4.25" x 2.75" approx.). Twelve of the compartments go towards the twelve races. One compartment is for the related magical items/artifacts. The other blank spaces go towards my dragons and promotional dice. It's easy to find the dice I need, easy to store and transport.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:20 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

because I came into the game right as it was temporarily dying out in the late 90's I only have about 160 dice right now. I have a little of every race up to Frostwings (my fave) and then I have none of the newest 2 races. I have TONS of Firewalkers because they were my fave before Frostwings. Anyway, since I have under 200, I just organize them into 4 dice bags and then put those bags into an ammunition box. It's just kinda cool to walk up to a table with an ammunition box, and pull out dice! lol If I just filed the box with dice I think it'd hold about 1000 dice. (estimating)
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piMaster wins my award for the best-sounding system so far, although I'm not sure I want that many separate boxes. The tackle box carrier I got at Walmart recently is the best option, to me, for taking my dice to a gaming show. With four of the clear plastic tackle boxes with optional separators, you could bring reasonably what you would need to play two entirely separate armies, with enough dice to tweak your armies(in almost every way imaginable) if you find in friendly matches that your trounament-ready army isn't so ready yet. Plus some room to spare still for bringing rares/monsters that you will need to trade for the couple dice still needed for your collection.
I don't mean this in a bad way, but I would go nuts using baggies. I really like the tackle boxes. I don't like to separate them off as small as most here do, though. Maybe I have "pudgy fingers" or something, but separating the dice into small compartments that get very exact makes it too hard to get them out. I think for now, though, I'm going to have to separate uncommons from the rares & commons, because I just can't tell them apart instantly. Does anyone else lump the monsters that "go best" with styles of units from their race? (For example, I put my Unicorn with the Treefolk magic units, the Darktree with the Treefolk heavy units, etc...)
I do the same thing with my magestorm artifacts & magic items--the trebuchet goes with the missile magic items, flying carpet with the boots, blade golem with the swords, and so on.

Keep the ideas coming, though! I like at least hearing other ideas out there, until I can find the perfect mix between knowing where everything is and being able to get it out easily, yet not having something too bulky or too exact(i.e. "here's the drawer with the Feral Bear-folk"), I'm going to keep experimenting.
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For common/uncommon dice, I use embroidery floss boxes. You can put 12 commons in a floss slot, and since they run five across one race is one row. 12 uncommons for each race (36 total) will fit in the one long slot plus the last small slot, usually on the left. I have 12 of each common and two of each uncommon (4 of mages) for each race in my 4 boxes. I have another with kin in it, broken down 8 Hc, 4Lc, 8 Cc, 4 Hu, 4 Lu, 4Cu, 3 Hr, 2 Lr, 3Cr. Bonus: You can use the cardboard floss spindles as spell markers.

Of course, I also have a large part of my collection in a 40 pound (full) tackle box my wife bought me, another 2 miscellaneous dice boxes, and two unsorted casino coin cups full of dice. Not counting the two pencil cases with overflow commons and uncommons, a flat game box with a bunch of commons in it, and a variety of dice on the floor under furniture in our game nook.
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Funny to see that I'm not the only one who worried about this topic all the time Smile ! I also used the kicker boxes at first, then changed to pipe tobacco boxes made of metal, and now I store my collection in those flat toolboxes with several smaller compartments usually used to store nails, screws etc. The compartments are filled half height with that green foam you can get at flower stores. It usually is used to pick flowers in it to build a bunch of dried flowers. Its soft and easy to form. Just press the dice in and it'll keep the dice locked in place! One compartment = one dice! As far as my playing dice are concerned, they're stored in same kind of boxes, just bigger ones with several dice per compartment. When I went to a game (long time ago, snieff) I took a big Toolbox with me storing all the little boxes, plus extra double dice in external compartments of the big toolbox for trading. Well, ok, I didn't have thousands of dice, not even nearly that much!
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For common/uncommon dice, I use embroidery floss boxes. You can put 12 commons in a floss slot, and since they run five across one race is one row. 12 uncommons for each race (36 total) will fit in the one long slot plus the last small slot, usually on the left. I have 12 of each common and two of each uncommon (4 of mages) for each race in my 4 boxes.


This sounds pretty good--only I don't know what an embroidery floss box is. I looked in the Sewing section at WalMart, and didn't see anything that looked interesting; am I way off on where you find such a thing?

However, I am still trying to find the compartmentalized plastic tackle trays, but in a size that runs 3-4" deep. And I've looked in really desparate places--Ben Franklin(I know--I was surprised there was still one out there, too!), craft stores, baseball card shops, sporting goods stores...
The perfect box eludes me.

Oh, and for Dieter:
Is Dragon Diceā„¢ played much at all in Germany? I know gaming in general is much bigger over there, especially with boardgames being a more popular pasttime for families in Europe, but Germany especially. But a lot of "Euro" gamers (meaning the style of gamers, not the ethnicity) are snobbish, to put it nicely, about RPG's, Wargames, and collectible games; Dragon Diceā„¢ fits all 3 categories, in my opinion.
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This sounds pretty good--only I don't know what an embroidery floss box is.


Try a craft supply store (AC Moore and Michael's are two of the chains in my neck of the woods) or a fabric/sewing store. You may find them in department stores, but that may be a hit-or-miss proposition dependent on the size and scope of their selection. I get mine at AC Moore, since my mother likes to pay a visit there every month or so for craft supplies.
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This sounds pretty good--only I don't know what an embroidery floss box is.


Try a craft supply store (AC Moore and Michael's are two of the chains in my neck of the woods) or a fabric/sewing store. You may find them in department stores, but that may be a hit-or-miss proposition dependent on the size and scope of their selection. I get mine at AC Moore, since my mother likes to pay a visit there every month or so for craft supplies.


Thanks--I'll check Michael's, and there's a Hobby Lobby(?) here, too.
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to deputy five: No, unfortunately DDice isn't very common in Germany! The happier I am now to be able to talk to players and other DD-fans around the world since I joyned the www! I used to be offline till end of december! I don't exactly understand the meaning of "snobbish" but if you mean "fanatic" you're right. I can only speak for Germany since I have absolutly no playing experience with foreign players. We are very interested in RPGs, Fantasy and Collecting card games like MagicTG. Collectible dice games are hardly known over here that's why my dice had a very lonely live in a very dark box during the past years. Ads in newspapers, pinboards, messages in shops etc didn't help at all in finding playing partners especially 'cause I had to move several times through whole Germany (job reasons!). And I failed in interesting friends! Most of them didn't like the game and the few who liked it live away a few hundred Miles! Crying or Very sad ! That's why I'm just a collector at the moment. The web helps a lot to get new dice! I just got another delivery today and found what seems to be a Coral Elve Archer misprint. Four dice, two of them with different missile symbols. ( I'll put them in the dice oddities forum tomorrow, maybe someone can tell me something about them?). Back to topic, I drifted away a little Embarassed : As far as Europe is concerned I've noticed that at least in Great Britain Dragon Diceā„¢ is still an "up-to-date-game" with lots of trading and playing. Most of my new dice were ordered from there! I really wish SFR good luck in their efforts to get DD back to live (if it was dead that is! At least in Germany it was!) and spreading it out!!
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I just got another delivery today and found what seems to be a Coral Elve Archer misprint. Four dice, two of them with different missile symbols. ( I'll put them in the dice oddities forum tomorrow, maybe someone can tell me something about them?).


There is a fairly common Coral Elf misprint which has Dwarf crossbows instead of Coral Elf bows on two faces. They have been nicknamed "Mercenary Bowmen" (I believe originally by Bruce Parrello, but it's a common nickname now). When you post your pictures someone can tell you if that's what you have.
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I just got another delivery today and found what seems to be a Coral Elve Archer misprint. Four dice, two of them with different missile symbols. ( I'll put them in the dice oddities forum tomorrow, maybe someone can tell me something about them?).


There is a fairly common Coral Elf misprint which has Dwarf crossbows instead of Coral Elf bows on two faces. They have been nicknamed "Mercenary Bowmen" (I believe originally by Bruce Parrello, but it's a common nickname now). When you post your pictures someone can tell you if that's what you have.


Yeah, and if that's not what you have, get ready to hear the heavy breathing from all the long-time collectors! Very Happy
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to deputy five: No, unfortunately DDice isn't very common in Germany! The happier I am now to be able to talk to players and other DD-fans around the world since I joyned the www! I used to be offline till end of december! I don't exactly understand the meaning of "snobbish" but if you mean "fanatic" you're right.


By snobbish I meant do the "Euro game" players (stuff like Carcassone, Princes of Florence, etc.) look down on Dragon Diceā„¢? That's the general perception I've gotten from a quick glance at boardgamegeek.com. But if Germans play a lot of Magic and other CCG's, I can imagine that at least a small percentage would like Dragon Diceā„¢ if they were exposed enough to it.

Of course, it's a long way from Origins to Essen. Smile
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(yawn #2 Wink ): I should follow the rule "never answer posts on your pc if you're not awake yet" Razz ! Sorry deputy five, I overlooked your last message. Yes, I agree, Dragon Diceā„¢ would have pretty good chances in Germany. I think the problem was that there wasn't enough advertisement about this product during the past years. They simply appeared in the shops but you didn't get much of information about it. If you didn"t happen to stumble about one of those rare articles in one or the other game 'zines you didn't even know this game exists. I found my first dice by pure coincidence when I looked for some nice new Dice to use in tabletop rpg "Das schwarze Auge" which is the German equivalent to D&D and AD&D. Yes, I always seemed to be somehow "addicted" to dice in general (No, you don't find me gamblin' in Las Vegas' night bars!). If I wouldn't have collected dice anyway I probably wouldn't have bought my first DD-starter.
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Looking for a good way to store dice? Well i found a great way to keep all 7000+ of my dice neatly laid out, unused pizza boxes. I found you can get the boxes cheap online and they can hold 700+ dice flat id icons up for easy ref, plus listing the box number in DDAssist you can just look your dice up pull the box off the the cart grab what you need. I use a rolling computer cart to hold the 9 pizza boxes and 1 shoe box for monsters in ziplock bags.
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riolis wrote:
Looking for a good way to store dice? Well i found a great way to keep all 7000+ of my dice neatly laid out, unused pizza boxes. I found you can get the boxes cheap online and they can hold 700+ dice flat id icons up for easy ref, plus listing the box number in DDAssist you can just look your dice up pull the box off the the cart grab what you need. I use a rolling computer cart to hold the 9 pizza boxes and 1 shoe box for monsters in ziplock bags.


You definitely win for most unique storage methods. Very Happy I think I'd be too prone to bumping a box against something, or setting it down too roughly, and having the dice move, fall over, and get all mixed up.

By the way, just as an update, now that I have a gazillion dice, I perfectly understand Cliff's ( and every other collector with 1000+ dice) need to store individual dice in their own bin. For people with large collections, at home I can suggest the Plano Prolatch 2-3730. It can have up to 22 sections, and it is a deep (3 inches) tackle compartment. And I found a place online that sells them for only $4.29 apiece! As a bonus, if you order more than $50 worth of stuff, shipping is free. (I ordered 12, and now my collection is very easy to organize and find anything.) tacklewarehouse.com [I have nothing to do with this company, except as a satisfied customer.)

Another option is a drawer organizer I saw at Home Garden, or some store with a name close to that. From the box's picture, it seems to be aimed at organizing a sock drawer (or panty drawer for women), but basically is a bunch of v-shaped plastic sections that fit in a crisscross pattern creating 31 diamond-shaped sections that are pretty deep and fairly large. So you could take some old piece of furniture with drawers and buy a couple drawer organizers, and store your dice that way. I'm thinking a map chest with slightly taller drawers than I usually see on a map chest. The CLASSY solution. Smile
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I found another solution for storing a pretty good quantity of dice that you want to remain portable. Black & Decker has a new Workmate Small Parts Box ($9.99 at Home Depot) that is actually four clear small-parts boxes with dividers (some of which can be moved) in a large orange case with a handle. These boxes are about the size of my usual embroidery floss boxes, and while I can't store my collection in it, I'll be able to cart a few hundred dice in it for Origins. It's actually better for smaller dice, but I'll be loading up with dragons and promos as well. It won't hold as many dice as my huge tackle box, but it will actually be able to be carried.
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