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cliffwiggs
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 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:21 pm GMT Post subject: Isn't it strange... |
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That a hidden unit (Feral spell 'Hide') can carry a magic item and use it?
i.e. an army containing two hidden units can also contain two melee magic items which would get to roll during melee even though the hidden units can't.
"Hey who cast that spell?"
"I can't see them; they must be hidden"
"Hey who shot that arrow?"
"I can't see them; they must be hidden"
"Hey who just swung that sword at me?"
"I can't see them; they must be hidden"
"You really need to get some new glasses"
"I can't find the optometrist shop; they must be hidden" |
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DEEPBLUEB2
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:20 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Can Rare Dragonkin Breath kill a hidden unit?
(3 health)
this targets the player, not the units
or rare Dragonkin Champion Breath?
(4 health)
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piMaster
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:21 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Starter Rules page 108 wrote: | | A magical item can be rolled only if a unit capable of carrying that item is rolled. |
So, an army consisting of two hidden units and two magical items could not roll the items because the units cannot be rolled.
If the army had one hidden unit and one non-hidden unit, then you get to roll one of the magical items. |
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piMaster
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:21 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Jim Rayborn wrote: | Can Rare Dragonkin Breath kill a hidden unit?
(3 health) |
No |
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DEEPBLUEB2
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:23 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| this targets the player, not the units |
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piMaster
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:25 pm GMT Post subject: |
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It doesn't matter. Dragonkin breath is a melee effect and hidden units cannot be the target of a melee effect.
And technically, no effect targets the player. |
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DEEPBLUEB2
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:34 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Ok, I get it....
it does say" targeted player" in the rules under Rare Dragonkin Breath.
So I thought... the player was targeted not the hidden unit.  |
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cliffwiggs
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:37 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Starter Rules page 108 wrote: | | A magical item can be rolled only if a unit capable of carrying that item is rolled. |
well  bbbbbbllllllpppppphhhhhhhhh
Steal all my fun.
stinking rules. |
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DEEPBLUEB2
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:40 pm GMT Post subject: |
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If a Dragonlord or Dragonmaster tamed a dragon,
and then become hidden,
would they lose control of the Dragon?
My guess is that they would lose control of the Dragon. |
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piMaster
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:41 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Jim Rayborn wrote: | Ok, I get it....
it does say" targeted player" in the rules under Rare Dragonkin Breath.
So I thought... the player was targeted not the hidden unit. |
Hmmm... it does say targeted player. I searched thru the rules and found two instances of that phrase. One is for the Temple 8th face (which I suppose really does target the player, although you could say it targets one player's DUA); the other is for rare Dragonkin Breath (which really targets the defending army).
So next time I get a Dragonkin Breath, I'll be sure to breath on you Jim  |
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piMaster
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:43 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Jim Rayborn wrote: | If a Dragonlord or Dragonmaster tamed a dragon,
and then become hidden,
would they lose control of the Dragon?
My guess is that they would lose control of the Dragon. |
No. The rules spell out how a DL/DM loses control over a dragon, and being hidden is not one of them. |
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