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Deeghter · rare Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 2553 Location: Lost

What - for heaven's sake - is a KING'S DIE????

(lists right next to the monster of Loch Ness, I guess?)
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chuckpint · Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:04 pm GMT Post subject:

Don't know, but I have several "Kings' Die". Razz

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Deeghter · rare Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 2553 Location: Lost

Actually I got Variations 2 and 3. Cool

But it's really strange that it is used so seldomly. Probably to most players it's not worth losing 4 health of total army size for what it can actually do.

I think I should start an experiment, playing a 5-races-army (basic races!) and using a King's die with it???
Sounds promising since you can get back or promote units in EVERY roll, as long as you have lost any before.

Hmmmm.............

...........very interesting idea! Cool

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DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:45 pm GMT Post subject:

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DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:15 pm GMT Post subject:

This seems to be leaning towards a Kings' die discussion....
so I'll contribute....

I made an army Using a Kings' die with 3 original races...
the Key was to use only uncommons.
This way you were forced to roll the Kings' Die.
As promote was out of the equation,
and if you hit the SFR/TSR you would get 4 health.
Otherwise 2 health if King icon. (If a mixed race DUA)

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DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:46 am GMT Post subject:

Kings' Die:

thundercat427

Was this just a give away or was it a prize winning? I have one but I do not remember where I got it from.

chuckpint · Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:07 pm GMT Post subject:

Some may have been given out as prizes later, but the bulk of them where given away at GenCon 1996 in the "swag" bag.
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willpell · common Joined: 29 Nov 2008 Posts: 180

The king's die is bizarre. According to the rules, it's a unit, but it doesn't do anything that a unit does other than cost health to include in your force; it would make far more sense if they just said it isn't a unit but costs 4 health to include in your force.

And it lets you recruit a die of any size or promote a die by any amount - so why would you ever promote? If I'm allowed to recruit a Gryphon, why would I promote my Coral Elf to a Gryphon instead? I must be missing something here.
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piMaster · Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:48 pm GMT Post subject:

If you roll the Kings' Die, then you can recruit any size unit and/or promote units multiple steps (of the race rolled (except the logo face which allows you to recruit/promote any race)).

If you don't roll it, you can only recruit a common or promote to a unit of one health more.

So the question becomes: do you take the guaranteed one health revived, or do you roll it and risk getting either no health back or up to four health back?

Raven Bloodeyes · Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:44 am GMT Post subject:

Say you have an 1h Mage and 2h Mage, but you really want a certain 4h Monster and your 3h mage. You risk it and roll the King's Die... and get the right race!!!

So now you can promote the 1h by 2 to get the 3h mage (using 2h-worth)
AND you can promote the 2h by 2 to get the 4h monster (using 2h-worth)

THAT is one scenario where you might want to promote. You still only get 4h worth, but now you have the monster you wanted and basically converted your lower health mages into a higher one (both to get the Cantrip AND make it easier to revive the smaller units as 3 Breath/Spark of Life's can be hard to swing at one time)

DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:23 pm GMT Post subject:

Multiple Kings:

OK here's a neat thing I though of for Battlefest format

Let's say you use 3 Kings' dice:
and had a common and uncommon in the DUA

First you could recruit 1 common

next...
you take that common and promote it to an uncommon...

then with the third king...
you recruit the common

there are a number of loops that could be made...
including rolling the first King...
and promoting the commons.