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piMaster rare Stockholder
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3235 Location: Rockford, IL

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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:29 pm GMT Post subject: Worst army ever! |
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Let's shake things up a bit and see who can create the worst army ever!
(hey, there's some strategy to that)
Rules:- each person can submit one army
- armies are to be 36 health, standard army construction rules. Don't forget to include terrains and dragons.
- All items must be carryable by the army when it is split into the home, campaign, and horde armies.
- submissions are accepted from now until May 31, 2011
- from June 1, 2011 thru June 14, 2011, forum users may then vote for the three worst armies submitted. The winning (losing?) army will be calculated from the votes.
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piMaster rare Stockholder
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3235 Location: Rockford, IL

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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:31 pm GMT Post subject: |
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I'll start things off with my worst army:
Kings' Die
Skeletal Steed
Elephant-folk
Gorgon
Quickling
Gold Mantlet
Black Flying Carpet
Green Blade Golem
Blue Trebuchet
2 Swampland City
White Drake
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:24 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Sigh, flying carpet has a magic icon I can't use it and I want to use artifacts instead of magic items to maximize my health loss potential.
so... trebuchets it is.
Swamp Dragons Lair (no color match, no terrain flight, mostly melee)
Wasteland StandingStone (minimize magic and missile)
7 * Sunburst (can't save for anything)
6 * Blue Trebuchet (no saves and my terrains have no missiles)
2* Ivory Wyrms (so anyone can summon them against me)
Not only can't it win (like an all save army couldn't either), but it has no saves and only 7 health of damage will wipe it out. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99
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UltimaGabe dragonsteed
Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Posts: 93 Location: Smyrna, TN

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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:40 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Do we have to actually possess the dice we want to use? If not:
Horde army: 3 Unseelie Faeries
Campaign Army: 3 Unseelie Faeries
Proposed Terrain: Flatland Tower
Home Army: 3 Unseelie Faeries
Terrain: Flatland City
Dragons: 2 Gold Drake
Edit: I've never used one but I'm assuming swapping one of the Unseelies (take your pick) for a King's Die would do nothing but detract from the army's ability. The above setup, though, is without any promo dice. |
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ddicerc rare Public Relations Director Esteemed Author
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 3238 Location: East Brunswick, NJ, USA

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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:54 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Can't use all Unseelis-they're mages, so only half you army can be UFs under standard army construction rules.
Now an all-Ormyrr army- or perhaps 4 Ormyrrs, 1 Uttercrap, and 4 random artifacts...on a Flatland Tower home and Flat Temple frontier, blue and gold drakes. For artifacts, since they have to be carried at the beginning of the game to be legal, let's use a green Flying Carpet, a Black Dragonstaff, a Green Mantlet, and a Red Dragonstaff. The staffs mean I can only summon someone else's dragons, probably on myself. I'd use a Kings Die, but everyone else is jumping on that idea.
Just remember, even the DCM had nothing good to say about Ormyrrs. _________________ Steve "DDice" Braun
The Diceman's Gaming Pages: http://ddicerc.weebly.com
2014-2015 U.S. National Champion
(Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...) |
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piMaster rare Stockholder
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3235 Location: Rockford, IL

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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:31 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| UltimaGabe wrote: | | Do we have to actually possess the dice we want to use? |
No, you can create any legal army your imagination can imagine.
You don't need to split your dice into home, campaign, and horde - just a listing of the dice (like my post).
And why does everybody dump all over the Unseelie Faerie? Based on my personal experience using them, UF's are not the worst monster in the game. |
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dburkley rare Director
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 1200 Location: Hillsborough, NJ

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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:40 pm GMT Post subject: Worst Army Ever |
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This army will win the Initiative, maybe - but not anything else...
1 x black Sprinter
1 x red Sprinter
1 x green Sprinter
1 x gold Sprinter
1 x blue Sprinter
2 x black Seven League Boots
2 x red Seven League Boots
1 x green Seven League Boots
2 x gold Seven League Boots
2 x blue Seven League Boots
1 x Wraith
1 x Scout
1 x Apprentice
1 x Falcon-folk
1 x Gold Drake
1 x Green Wyrm
2 x Coastland Tower
Why I consider this the worst army to play:
* Only nine 1-health units.
* Easy to suffer casualties with even minimal damage.
* Very difficult to generate any significant magic between diverse races.
* Incapable of summoning Dragons.
* Capable of only feeble-fire and poor melee.
* Racial abilities cannot be used to any significant advantage.
* Terrains offer no advantages. _________________ Daniel Burkley
US National Champion (DEXCON 2007, 2009, 2010)
World Champion (GENCON 2008, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014)
Battlefest Champion: DEXCON 2008, 2011, GENCON 2009, 2010 (co-champion), 2011, 2017)
"No Magicians": GENCON 2008
"Single Race": DEXCON 2008, GENCON 2010, 2011, 2014 (co-champion), 2017
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DialFforFunky rare
Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 1992 Location: Groningen

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 2:13 am GMT Post subject: |
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2x highland tower
12x green warder,
12x green steel buckler
2x black/red hybrid wyrm
It'll do nothing but wait and die.
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:56 am GMT Post subject: |
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are we allowed to 'smack talk' each others armies to point out the uhm.... detriments of our own?
I like how everyone is jumping on magic items, but why all the monsters? a common carrying an artifact is much easier to kill than a monster carrying one.
and i agree, much worse monsters to have than a fairy. but even an army of all utter craps doesn't play as badly as you might think. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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DialFforFunky rare
Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 1992 Location: Groningen

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:25 am GMT Post subject: |
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I'm surprised to see that so many hold maneuvers in such a low esteem. Maneuvers both have a passive and an active power (counter-maneuver and maneuver, respectively), and it is the key to one of the two ways to achieve victory. Not only that, but it allows you to win horde rolls, allowing you to set the terms of the game.
edit: as for the crappy monsters, I recall an on-line game of crappy armies some time ago being dominated by an army consisting entirely out gorgons. I'll see if I can find it.
edit 2: Got it!
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ddicerc rare Public Relations Director Esteemed Author
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 3238 Location: East Brunswick, NJ, USA

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:59 am GMT Post subject: |
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I can't speak for others, but monsters in a crappy army are basically one-and-done. There's almost no way to get them back. Commons can be healed almost by accident through IDs, even in a poorly built army.
Although that reminds me of a Battlefest army I thought about building (and may still do someday): one of each common for the non-Eldarim races.It wouldn't do anything well, but then again it wouldn't be totally useless regardless of terrain facing. _________________ Steve "DDice" Braun
The Diceman's Gaming Pages: http://ddicerc.weebly.com
2014-2015 U.S. National Champion
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piMaster rare Stockholder
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3235 Location: Rockford, IL

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:41 am GMT Post subject: |
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| cliffwiggs wrote: | | are we allowed to 'smack talk' each others armies to point out the uhm.... detriments of our own? |
I don't see why not. Nothing wrong with a good debate before everyone casts their votes.
BTW, you are allowed to change the composition of your army before the June 1st deadline (in case you feel the need to tweak it). |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:44 am GMT Post subject: |
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we should take the top armies and play them in an online game. see who can win with the worst army (have to play someone elses army) _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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piMaster rare Stockholder
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:48 am GMT Post subject: |
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Doh!
You ruined my surprise.
But that is what I was thinking when I started this. Great minds think alike  |
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dburkley rare Director
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:03 am GMT Post subject: |
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| cliffwiggs wrote: | | we should take the top armies and play them in an online game. see who can win with the worst army (have to play someone elses army) |
That's been done before. I recall having to play with an army of all Gorgons, which I seem to recall was your brainchild. _________________ Daniel Burkley
US National Champion (DEXCON 2007, 2009, 2010)
World Champion (GENCON 2008, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014)
Battlefest Champion: DEXCON 2008, 2011, GENCON 2009, 2010 (co-champion), 2011, 2017)
"No Magicians": GENCON 2008
"Single Race": DEXCON 2008, GENCON 2010, 2011, 2014 (co-champion), 2017 |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:41 am GMT Post subject: |
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I see an event forming for Gencon2012... _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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chuckpint White Dragon SFR President Site Admin
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 9187 Location: Evanston, IL

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:43 am GMT Post subject: |
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9 Centaurs
Home: Swampland City
Frontier: Swampland Tower
2 green drakes
No saves, some melee, some missile, some maneuver. Crappy SAI (Kick). When they die, they have no way to come back. _________________ You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).
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Skawilly rare SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 21 Mar 2011 Posts: 1322 Location: Seattle, WA

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:43 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Home: Highland Temple > 3x Coral Elf Courier, 2x Blue Carpets
Campaign: Highland Tower > 4x Coral Elf Courier, 2x Blue Carpets, 1x flicker foil
Horde: 1x horsemen, 1x Treb
1x gold 1x black < dragons |
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DEEPBLUEB2 monster Stockholder
Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 7894 Location: Des Plaines, IL

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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:12 am GMT Post subject: |
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Cliff suggested an all magic item army in another post...
at the beginning of the game all your magic items become buried.
all magic item army
White wyrm
2 wasteland cites.
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:17 am GMT Post subject: |
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An interesting idea Jim, but I'm not sure its legal... _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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