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Skawilly · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:45 pm GMT Post subject: Zon/SS packs

How are things going for those starters? Tons left or they moving along?
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:37 pm GMT Post subject:

They move faster everytime someone buys one. Wink

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Denimwizard · common Joined: 01 Jan 2011 Posts: 356 Location: Maryland

I plan to buy some soon been wanting some Swamp Stalkers.
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stormywaters · rare Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 1403

When SS come in kicker pack form, I'll be buying SO many of those. I've got almost a complete set of Amazons, minus a couple of dice, but I have very very few SS.

I just don't know anyone looking to collect Amazons, so I have nobody to split the starter with.

Denimwizard · common Joined: 01 Jan 2011 Posts: 356 Location: Maryland

Stormy I know how ya feel there. I have no interest in the amazons (at the moment anyway) . But the Swamp Stalkers seem like a cool race to play . But if i buy the kickers i will at least have one of every race save for Scalders. So i may order a kicker or two of those haha.
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DialFforFunky · rare Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 1992 Location: Groningen

Add me to the list of people that want Swamp Stalkers but not Amazons. If the Amazons weren't attached to them, I'd probably buy a case of the the swampy buggers with my next purchase. With them combined I'm not so sure though (if any Dutch or German player is interested in a case of Amazons... ).

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Dolus · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:41 am GMT Post subject:

I'm still collecting bits of everything. Very Happy

My main worry as everything has been moving to kickers is how it'll affect starters for new players. I feel like the base 4 races were the easiest to get introduced into the game with, which will soon only be available in kicker form. I'm curious about the long-term plans for starter packs in general.
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:43 am GMT Post subject:

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Skawilly · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:55 am GMT Post subject:

I guess to rephrase Dolus' statement as might be asked by me: How are new people gonna sit down and play with new packs in those 3 years? Do they each need to buy a battlegrounds, 1 kicker and trade for dragons? Or just use Zons/SS?
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Dolus · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:11 am GMT Post subject:

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Skawilly · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:20 am GMT Post subject:

I guess the bottom line answer. There are 3+ years left for the Zon/SS and Feral/UD remaining. (Roughly ~2 years of both) and those will be the current 'starters'.
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:04 am GMT Post subject:

I'm always interested in the players perspective.

The final decision is a few years away and by then you will have forgotten I asked and just think that I read your mind...

So, what would be some of your ideas for the future of DragonDice Starters?

I have some ideas of my own, but will refrain from slanting the discussion just yet...
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Dolus · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:18 am GMT Post subject:

I like the idea of Eldarim as starters. It's interesting. And a good point in making the players deal with only one color at a time.

I see from your proposal you're giving players 24 health of units, so players would need 2 packs to play a game. As long as the starters are clear that it's a starter for one player and not for two, I like the idea of making starters that way.

When players are starting the game, they want a starter where they can buy the game and just play. This option is bad in that they need to buy two starters to have a stand-alone game, but the upside is (whether we use eldarim or races) that the players can choose which two starters they want to pair, instead of being forced into a pairing if they only want one.

A major benefit I see is that as players play more, they're more likely to buy more starters because they can focus on one race. If I want amazons but no swamp stalkers, I can buy my amazon starter with terrain and dragons, and not get stuck paying for the swamp stalkers I don't want.
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Denimwizard · common Joined: 01 Jan 2011 Posts: 356 Location: Maryland

Right i realize that it forces the players to buy two to start playing which I am not a fan of but if the starters cost less than the current ones it may not be too much of a problem.

I like the idea of buying two different colors and making them face off.

This is akin to the Portal Decks released by MTG Many years ago. The decks were small mono color and had bold face print on them. It was geared to get folks interested in playing magic and make it simple to understand. Eventually they did start selling them in duo packs i think so two players could duke it out .
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