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[Magic Dave]

Really can't get my head around this one, so please take it that i know nothing about this with your explanations.

So if i declare that I'm going to cast a spell on a army that has a SAI cantrip, how does it work and when is magic neg rolls done? it says that cantrip is counted for magic neg rolls but when are these done?

sorry its abit short of a question but I keep finding ref to magic neg but struggle to find when it's applied and how.

Cheers

[chuckpint]

Dispel Magic is a SAI found on a few monsters. See that SAI description for more about it.

But despite your subject title, it seems your question is really about magic negation. That is a special racial ability that Frostwings have. Look at their racial description and it should be clearer. So the only Cantrip that can really do any magic negation is the Cantrip on the Frostwing Magi. I agree that text is confusing if you don't know anything about Frostwings' racial ability.
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[Magic Dave]

[cliffwiggs]

[Magic Dave]

So one dispel for all declared spells, and is that even if it's not a target for a spell? And is that just the one dispel roll even if you have two monsters that have a dispel option?

[cliffwiggs]

[chuckpint]

The monster with a Dispel Magic icon gets to roll if it, its army, or its terrain is the target of one or more spells. If two or more monsters fit that, then all of them get to roll. If a Dispel Magic icon comes up on any monster when trying to dispel magic, then all spells that target the monster, its army, and its terrain are gone, never happened....

So here's an example that should help. An army with two Will 'o Wisps has enemy magic cast at it: two Lightning Strikes (one on each Will 'o Wisp), a Transmute Rock to Mud on that army, and a Summon Dragon at that terrain. Both Will 'o Wisps are rolled to see if they can get a Dispel Magic. One gets one, the other does not. So the Transmute Rock to Mud and Summon Dragon spells are gone. Only one of the Lightning Strikes is gone (from the Will 'o Wisp that actually got a Dispel Magic). Why? The other Lightning Strike that targeted the Will 'o Wisp that did not get a Dispel Magic, did not target the Will 'o Wisp that did roll a Dispel Magic. The point here, the dispelling monster cannot stop a spell that targets another unit whether or not it's in the same army, or at the same terrain. It can only dispel spell that target it, its army, or its terrain.
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First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

[Magic Dave]

Cheers that helps and clears it all up.

[Cat]

Yes, that example helps a lot!

[BBrauser]

I remember what seems like a life time ago when the summon dragon's spell use to read target any dragon at the table and send it to any terrain in play. That dynamic made them immune to the dispel magic SAI because the dragon was the target of the spell, and a dragon is never part of anyone's army, and finally a dragon is not actually ON the terrain but above it, which is why they are immune to territory modifying spells, such as ash storm, when they attack.

Making the summon spell a terrain targeting spell made it less scary
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