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Matthias Maccabeus
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 Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:37 pm GMT Post subject: Yep I need a game, I'm starting to shake... |
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It's been too long since I played a game (online or IRL). Anybody up for one? Format doesn't matter to me. Though I would like to try something with a simplified spell list if somebody was up for a bit of custom stuff, but I'm happy with any type of game.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:58 pm GMT Post subject: |
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I'm always up for a game, though perhaps I should wait if anyone else wants to play as well. I've practically been living in the on-line games section recently.
Also, if you could provide a spell list I'd be more than willing to try it.
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Matthias Maccabeus
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| Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:03 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Here's the proposed list. Please feel free to add some input. I'm not sure I like Water Walking for the Scalders Green spell so any thoughts on that would be great. Also the only change with Eldarim is instead of rise, it's a promotion spell only, just like their dkin promote spell. Oh and the Amazons are similar to eldarim where it's just got to be all the same color.
Black – FoD / Ashes to Ashes
Blue – Wind Walk / Breath of Life
Gold – TRtM / Path
Green – Watery Double / Flash Flood
Red – Burning Hands / Ash Storm
Coral Elves
Blue – Blizzard
Green – Wall of Fog
Lava Elves
Black – Necro Wave
Red – Flaming Armor
Dwarves
Red – Reforge Item
Gold – Earthen Armor
Goblins
Black – Palsy
Gold – Stone Skin
Amazons
Elemental – Flaming Spears / Higher Ground
Firewalkers
Red – Dancing Lights
Blue – Lightning Strike
Undead
Black – Open Grave / Evil Eye / Haunt / Exhume
Feral
Blue – Wilding
Gold - Hide
Swamp Stalkers
Green – Mire
Black – Decay
Frostwings
Black – Magic Drain
Blue – Wind Wall
Scalders
Red – Firestorm
Green – Water Walking
Treefolk
Green – Wall of Thorns
Gold - Camouflage
Eldarim
Elemental – Promote Dkin / Promote Eldarim
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:06 am GMT Post subject: |
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I highly recommend adding all the resurrection spells, as this list places a very tough restriction on all non-blue mages (they are basically not worthwhile compared to a golden medallion or troll). Also: no summoning of dragons?
If nobody has come along to claim this game by this evening I'll go ahead and claim it as mine  .
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Matthias Maccabeus
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:18 am GMT Post subject: |
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Dragons and Dragon kin are always a given, I just forgot to put that down. I've had similar thought about the revive spells but wanted to give each color different attributes. But I totally see your point. We don't have to use the list if you don't want. It's very much a work in progress. I'm getting involved in a new game group in town and want to show off dragon dice so I'm working on simplifying it a bit for them (at least at first) and these are just some ideas I've had.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:06 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Matthias Maccabeus wrote: | | Dragons and Dragon kin are always a given, I just forgot to put that down. I've had similar thought about the revive spells but wanted to give each color different attributes. But I totally see your point. We don't have to use the list if you don't want. It's very much a work in progress. I'm getting involved in a new game group in town and want to show off Dragon Dice™ so I'm working on simplifying it a bit for them (at least at first) and these are just some ideas I've had. |
I believe there was an alternative setting to magic called 'simple magic' which basically let you revive stuff for 3, cast dragons for 7 and perhaps shoot stuff for 4 (I'm not sure and can't seem to find it). Alternatively, you could just drop all the racial spells if you want to start easy.
There are only a few balancing issues at the moment, most of it seems pretty decent. The biggest deviations are probably the firewalkers and the dwarves. Firewalkers are very strong as they've got blue resurrectional magic, very strong direct damage and probably the best control spell in dancing lights. The dwarves are pretty much stuck with a spell that didn't make sense from the beginning: reforge item. You usually lose items when you lose guys, but you can't bring back guys while you can bring back items. If you go for the item route, you could be left with a surplus of items. While the spell is fitting themwise, it seems like a very situationally useful spell. Perhaps give firewalkers flashfire and move the dancing lights over to the dwarves?
Still, I will pick up the challenge for this list. Changing it beforehand wouldn't be testing it anyways. I'll try some scalder mages as they seem on the mid-to-lowish-end of the power spectrum (and I like them a lot). I'll post the board and my army later this evening.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:54 pm GMT Post subject: |
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(Great minds think alike) I thought the same about both the Dwarves and Firewalkers, but what I kept coming back to is the poor icon distribution on the Firewalkers (except the mages) means they will lose in most other situations. I didn't like reforge item, but I was like eh, that's pretty dwarvish. I do like your suggested changes.
I do like the revive spells for 3. I may mess with that a bit and throw it in with the dragon / kin and trade breath of life out for hailstorm or something similar. Thanks for the input!! My first meeting is this Sat with the new group.
I'm going to try dwarves with a few items.
Home - Highland Temple
Wizard x 2 (6)
Thamaturgist x 2 (4)
Theugist x 4 (4)
Gold Medallion
Frontier - Highland City
Footman
Horde -
Mammoth Rider x 2 (6)
Skirmisher x 2 (6)
Pony Rider x 2 (2)
Gold Targe (1)
Gold Mithril Shield (3)
Summoning Pool -
Gold Wyrm x 2
Gold Champion
Gold Champ
Gold Hero
Gold Troop
Gold Foal
Gold Scout
Highland Woods
Highland Bridge
Swampland Bridge
Flatland Woods
Horde Roll -
Gold Mithril Shield: 2 Save
Gold Wooden Targe: 2 Save
Mammoth Rider: 3 ID
Mammoth Rider: 4 Melee
Pony Rider: 1 Maneuver
Pony Rider: 1 Melee
Skirmisher: 4 Melee
Skirmisher: 3 ID
7 Total
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:18 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Funny to see how similar our armies turned out. I tried to make it a tiny bit naive but still interesting enough to produce an interesting battle.
Horde rolls
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BUA
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DUA
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Reserve Army
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Summoning Pool
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Home Army
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Home Army
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Reserve Army
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Summoning Pool
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DUA
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BUA
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My horde roll:
 
   
result: 6 maneuver
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:27 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Have Fun and Good Luck. It should be quite interesting. Man, I think I want the terrain. Scalders are crazy fast.
Home Roll - 5 Missle (Yuck)
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:33 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Good luck and have fun as well!
My home roll:
 which becomes  (yuk here as well  )
I'll need a frontier roll as well.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:38 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| DialFforFunky wrote: | Good luck and have fun as well!
I'll need a frontier roll as well.
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That would help wouldn't it!! 
2 Magic (Yuck again)...
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:47 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Now there's a roll I can live with!
Turn Sequence: Matthias Maccabeus, DialFforFunky
Horde rolls
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BUA
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DUA
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Reserve Army
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Summoning Pool
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Home Army
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City | | Frontier
City | | Matthias Maccabeus's Home
Temple | | DialFforFunky
Home Army
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Reserve Army
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Summoning Pool
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DUA
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BUA
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My first turn:
- Spell and effect expiration: none
- Initial Effects Phase: none
- Dragon Attack Phase: none
- First March: @ the frontier
Maneuver: no
Action: Magic
 
   
Result: 5 magic
4 - 2x ash storm on your home
- Second March: @ your home
Maneuver: yes, do you oppose?
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:50 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Of Course!
Gold Medallion: Wayfare
Thaumaturgist: 3 Magic
Thaumaturgist: 3 Magic
Theurgist: 1 ID
Theurgist: 1 Magic
Theurgist: 1 Melee
Theurgist: 1 ID
Wizard: 4 Magic
Wizard: 3 Magic
8 Total I forgot about Ash Storm, so only 4.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:00 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Maneuver:
    
Result: 1 - 2 = 0 maneuvers, the terrain stays at 5.
Action: none
- Reserve Phase:
Retreat: the mage at my home moves to reserves
- Spell and effect expiration: none
End my (lousy) turn
Turn Sequence: Matthias Maccabeus, DialFforFunky
Turn 1
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BUA
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DUA
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Summoning Pool
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Home Army
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City | | Frontier
City | | Matthias Maccabeus's Home
Temple
2x ash storm | | DialFforFunky
Home Army
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Reserve Army
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Summoning Pool
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DUA
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BUA
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:03 pm GMT Post subject: |
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WHOA!
Here I am looking at my army for the next game already and then that....
1st March with Horde - Unopposed to 7. No action available to take.
2nd March - maneuver attempt with Home -
Gold Medallion: 4 Sortie
Thaumaturgist: 2 Magic
Thaumaturgist: 2 Save
Theurgist: 1 Melee
Theurgist: 1 Magic
Theurgist: 1 ID
Theurgist: 1 Magic
Wizard: 3 Save
Wizard: 3 Save
So 0 with Ash Storm
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:09 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Counter maneuver:
 
result: 6 - 2 = 4
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:12 pm GMT Post subject: |
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No Action.
Reserves - Frontier and Home army to Reserves. EoT
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:26 pm GMT Post subject: |
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- Spell and effect expiration: ash storms expire
- Initial Effects Phase: none
- Dragon Attack Phase: none
- First March: @ the frontier
Maneuver: no
Action: Magic
  
Result: 12 magic
I'm going to take a bit of a gamble here:
5 - flash flood on my home
7 - summon red dragon to my home
- Second March: @ your home
Maneuver: yes, turn the terrain up to 6 unopposed
Action: none
- Reserve Phase:
Reinforce: Mage from reserves moves to the frontier
- Spell and effect expiration: none
End my turn
Turn Sequence: Matthias Maccabeus, DialFforFunky
Turn 2
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Home Army
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City | | Frontier
City | | Matthias Maccabeus's Home
Temple
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Home Army
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Reserve Army
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Summoning Pool
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DUA
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Dragon attack:
 
Result: 9 melee
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edit: I'm off to bed! Good night/day!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:37 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Flash Flood -
Gold Mithril Shield: 2 Save
Gold Wooden Targe: 1 Save
Mammoth Rider: 3 Trample
Mammoth Rider: 3 Melee
Pony Rider: 1 ID
Pony Rider: 2 Maneuver
Skirmisher: 3 Maneuver
Skirmisher: 4 Counter
9 Total...(whew)
Dragon -
Gold Mithril Shield: 1 Save
Gold Wooden Targe: 1 Save
Mammoth Rider: 3 Trample
Mammoth Rider: 3 ID
Pony Rider: 1 Maneuver
Pony Rider: 1 Save
Skirmisher: 3 Maneuver
Skirmisher: 3 ID
3 saves, 3 melee, 6 ID - Use the IDs as saves.
1st March - Magic in Reserves -
Footman: 1 ID
Thaumaturgist: 2 Melee
Thaumaturgist: 2 Save
Theurgist: 1 Melee
Theurgist: 1 Magic
Theurgist: 2 Magic
Theurgist: 2 Magic
Wizard: 3 Magic
Wizard: 3 Magic
12 Magic - BH x 2 on Skirmishers. EA x 2 on Mammoth Riders.
2nd March - unopposed to 8. Roll for Magic -
Gold Mithril Shield: 3 Save
Gold Wooden Targe: 2 Save
Mammoth Rider: 3 ID
Mammoth Rider: 3 Trample
Pony Rider: 1 Save
Pony Rider: 1 ID
Skirmisher: 3 Maneuver
Skirmisher: 4 Melee
4 ID - 8 Red of 4 Gold. Summon your dragon at your home to Frontier.
Reserves - Mages to Horde (w/o medallion) Footman to Horde. Mammoth Riders, Skirmishers, and shields to Reserves. EoT
Roll Dragon - Belly
EDIT - I just realized it was your dragon, but since I screwed that up, keep the belly roll.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:37 am GMT Post subject: |
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Will-o-wisps dispel roll: 
My second turn:
- Spell and effect expiration: none
- Initial Effects Phase: none
- Dragon Attack Phase:
Dragon attack combination roll:
Result: 2 melee, 7 saves. The dragon lives.
- First March:
Maneuver: yes, down to 1
Action: Magic
Result: 9 magic (I can't get that lazy Inferno to work!)
2 - ash storm on my home
7 - summon the dragon back to my home (the term dragon-pong comes to mind)
- Second March: none
- Reserve Phase: none
- Spell and effect expiration: nothing
End my turn
Turn Sequence: Matthias Maccabeus, DialFforFunky
Turn 2
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BH BH EA EA | Matthias Maccabeus
Summoning Pool
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Home Army
| | DialFforFunky's Home
Matthias Maccabeus' 8th
1x ash storm | | Frontier
City | | Matthias Maccabeus's Home
Temple
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Home Army
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Reserve Army
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Summoning Pool
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DUA
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BH: Burning Hands
EA: Earthen Armor
Dragon attack: 
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