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shoesan
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OK... thanks. Can you point me to where it says that or is it on the list of things to clarify?
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cliffwiggs
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Its mentioned in a few places by saying dragons that don't match fight, but this is the most direct statement for your example
| Quote: | Hybrid Dragons
These dragons are hybrids of the elemental dragons. Composed of two elemental colors, they have both colors in their
very makeup. They generate one color of breath against 5 health of the defending army (dragon’s owner picks which
breath), and both colors of army breath effects against the army. However, the dragons are affected by both colors
as well. A Dragon Summoning spell of either color will summon them to a terrain. Eldarim Champions that match
either color can affect them normally. Dragonhunters matching one color of breath block that breath, but not the other.
Dragon Staffs and Dragonkin Champions of either color also affect them normally. Dragonkin of either matching
color cannot be rolled when attacked by an Hybrid dragon. Hybrid Dragons fight all dragons (except pure ivory drag
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ons and ivory hybrids with a matching elemental color) that do not match their colors exactly. Elemental and White
dragons fight all Hybrid Dragons. |
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ddicerc
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The "story" that will help you remember the rule is this: Dragons sense the presence of the elements in other dragons. If they encounter any dragon containing an element they don't have, they will attack it. Ivory dragons have no element, so no dragon senses an opposing element and won't fight them. Hybrid dragons will fight if they sense an opposing element, even if one matches (and of course ivory is no element). White dragons contain all elements, so other dragons will always fight them. They are also supremely arrogant, so they will fight any dragon that doesn't have all the elements they have (even though they don't sense an "opposing" element in them).
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shoesan
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Thanks
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McSeb
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Hi all, I was just wondering if you could expand on this small sentence of the hybrid Dragon rules please?
"However, the dragons are affected by both colors as well."
Does this mean that when a hybrid Dragon rolls breath, and inflicts 2 breath effect on the army, it also suffers from these effects itself?
A friend and I were discussing what the 'downside' to hybrid dragons was, and other that they're easier to summon we can't see anything. Maybe this is it? |
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cliffwiggs
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:35 am GMT Post subject: |
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Let me put it into context by posting that entire section:
| Quote: | Hybrid Dragons
These dragons are hybrids of the elemental dragons. Composed of two elemental colors, they have both colors in their
very makeup. They generate one color of breath against 5 health of the defending army (dragon’s owner picks which
breath), and both colors of army breath effects against the army. However, the dragons are affected by both colors
as well. A Dragon Summoning spell of either color will summon them to a terrain. Eldarim Champions that match
either color can affect them normally. Dragonhunters matching one color of breath block that breath, but not the other.
Dragon Staffs and Dragonkin Champions of either color also affect them normally. Dragonkin of either matching
color cannot be rolled when attacked by an Hybrid dragon. Hybrid Dragons fight all dragons (except pure ivory drag- ons and ivory hybrids with a matching elemental color) that do not match their colors exactly. Elemental and White
dragons fight all Hybrid Dragons.
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If it were not a space consideration there could be a return line there. This sentence has to do with the ones following it and not the ones preceding it.
Any spell/effect which affects a dragon of a certain color can affect a hybrid that contains that color.
The dragon doesn't hurt itself with it's breath.
This is actually part of the downside of the dragon. Most players bring a dragon as an offensive part of their army. They want it to attack and kill their opponents units. If their opponent has ... a dragon hunter that just happens to match, then it hurts your dragon as it makes it more likely to be killed.
A hybrid dragon is affected by TWO different hunters. Thus the changes are doubled that your opponent will have a matching eldarim champion which can negatively affect your dragon.
Additionally, the dragon can be summoned away by either color of magic. so the odds are doubled that your opponent will share a color in common with your hybrid and be able to take it away from you.
Finally, the hybrids attack almost every other dragon. thus it is more likely that your opponent can summon their own dragon and it will prevent your dragon from attacking the army.
They aren't horrible downsides and have a lot to do with what your opponent brings. However, if you've ever put all your trust into a dragon... sending it against your opponent with a ton of spells to support it (by reducing the army's save against the dragon damage) and then they just tame it with a matching dragon master? that hurts.
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McSeb
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Excellent response, that clears it up! Thanks!  |
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