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willpell · common Joined: 29 Nov 2008 Posts: 180

I left the game 5 years ago when the option to charge was removed, and even now that I'm over that old irritation and back in the game, it annoys me that Trample is now strictly worse than Rend when it used to be one of the deadliest abilities in the game.

I've been thinking, wouldn't it be fairly easy to fix the abusiveness of charging just by ruling that only the rolled number of maneuvers apply? No doubling from racial abilities, minor terrains, 8th faces, or spells? This would turn charging back into just "more death" for both sides, speeding the game but not being too abusive, I wouldn't think.

But then, I've never played against an army of 12 Mammoth Riders, so maybe it really was as bad as they say....

Just a thought.
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chuckpint · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:52 am GMT Post subject:

Well, Trample is a bit more powerful than you might think. See these threads:

http://sfr-inc.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1480
http://sfr-inc.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=25
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willpell · common Joined: 29 Nov 2008 Posts: 180

The first link doesn't mention Trample anywhere that I can see. The second link does say that Trample is good just because it counts as two things, which is true. But my point is, Rend does everything Trample does plus something else besides, so monsters that have Trample instead of Rend now look pathetic.

I'm still inclined to think that just ruling that the maneuver results are converted to melee without being doubled would be enough of a fix. Sure it contradicts the standard computation sequence, but there's no reason it couldn't just be an exception clause. I think I'm going to try this as an "official" house rule and see whether it breaks.
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chuckpint · Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:22 am GMT Post subject:

For the first link see the second page of the thread. Very useful information about Trample.
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First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

willpell · common Joined: 29 Nov 2008 Posts: 180

Oops! This was supposed to be a new thread. I'm relocating it.
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