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stormywaters · rare Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 1403

So I got my first army from a guy I met recently. I paid $10 and I'm not concerned about if I got ripped off. I'm just wondering what I can do with it. Here's what I got:

1x Gryphon
1x Sharpshooter
2x Conjurer
1x Courier
3x Horseman
2x Evoker
1x Green Dragon
1x Coastland
1x Terrain that I don't know. It's green and yellowish. 1+2 are Magic, 3+4 are Missile, 5-7 are Melee, and 8 is a Tower.

So, some questions:

1. What immediate and inexpensive upgrades should I get?

2. How should I arrange armies at the start? I'm still new and learning basic strategy.

3. Any general tips and tricks?

Thanks!!

piMaster

stormywaters · rare Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 1403

piMaster

stormywaters · rare Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 1403

Here is the distribution I've come up with for my armies:

Home: 1x Gryphon, 2x Conjurer, 1x Knight
Horde: 1x Sharpshooter, 1x Courier, 1x Evoker, 2x Knight
Frontier: 1x Evoker

How does that look? I wanted some Cavalry to get my Conjurers to the City, but I spent some Cavalry to help with the Horde roll to hopefully get a second Coastline for the Frontier.

Ideas/suggestions?

Skawilly · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:09 pm GMT Post subject:

Yo yo, welcome to this sweet game. Firstly in my opinion you did NOT get ripped off. for 10 bucks that is a great starter set. 2nd, it sounds like that un identified terrain is a swampland, they are good for both goblins and swampstalkers, but remember that you can double your green magic there, assuming its a swampland.

Ok a tip for you as it stands, most people hardly ever put more than 1 pt. in a third army, usually its 17/18/1 or however. The reason it is suggested to abandon your home at first I think, is because your opponent will likely pour 18 pts. in their horde, which inevitably will end up at your home for total confrontation in round 1.

Any who, as you have a coral elf army, thing is as a race they tend to be weaker on their saves. Youll wanna get to coastland quick as you can, depending on your strat. on the other hand they tend to be heavy in ranged, its a strong suit they have. maybe get your hands on a coastland tower. <-------- This is just one strategy. You mentioned you liked magic so here is another for you....

Get a good amount of cavalry, and then get 50% pts. in mages and put them all on coastland. Their moves will double into a great deal of saves for you and the occasional face icon for even more magic. With the protection, the speed to help prevent your enemy from moving you out of magic and the spell points, this is definitely a strong move.

EDIT: When I said "Their moves will double into a great deal of saves for you" I meant double their use, NOT their number.

stormywaters · rare Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 1403

Yeah I get what you're saying. Honestly Cavalry works triple time for Coral Elves: Horde Roll (which is crucial to getting a second Coastline), Maneuvering for Terrain, and Saves. So I'm pretty well set on playing Cavalry/Magic.

On the subject of terrain, is it true that there is a terrain of each type (coastline, etc) for each 8th face? If so, I'm thinking a City and a Castle would be cool to run.

I had also thought about picking up some Bridge minor terrains. How do you guys feel about that?

Skawilly · Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:50 pm GMT Post subject:

Yes every terrain type has an 8th face of each type. Just be careful though to note that the terrain types all carry different weight as to which actions you can do as your climbing the scale to the 8th face. Example: Coastland basic terrains (The non special frontier ones) Are really heavy on ranged actions. 2-5 I believe and only the number 1 is magic, and ofcourse 6 and 7 are melee. Though your miner terrain idea will help with that. Just one last thing on my thoughts about the "Castle" is that it only offers either a temple or city to you, where as it offers those + a standing stones to an enemy. Basically if your playing I dunno, an Undead player and you brought blue dragons, your opponent now has access to them assuming they capture that frontier. I would recommend a vortex or just a city/temple specifically.

I myself am a HUGE fan of miner terrains however I also play thick on melee races. (Goblins atm and Undead) and melee is hard to climb to if your low on that terrain die.

stormywaters · rare Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 1403

Yeah I only suggested Castle for an extra magic face. I mean Grove offers lots of magic faces, but no doubling!! Sigh, oh well.

stormywaters · rare Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 1403

So looking over some rules and options for my army. I have 18 points (for now, I'll eventually expand), and I realized that Dragonkin are... well... free to take along. I mean you have to summon them, but they don't count against your army points.

So, I was thinking about picking up some Blue Dragonkin. I have a Green Dragon, so I wouldn't want a matching Dragonkin for that.

My options are (realistically) several smaller DK or progressing DK. I'm leaning toward 1x Dragonfoal, 1x Dragonmount, 1x Dragonsteed. That's my 6 points, while allowing promotions through my City 8th face.

How does that sound to you guys?

Also, what frontier terrain should I use? Just another Coastline City?

Skawilly · Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:52 pm GMT Post subject:

It fully depends on your strat. I wanna point out that most people tend to use blue dragons over green, but you may definitely find different.

I mean the strat behind taking smaller to larger ones or running a bunch of small ones is up to what you intend to do with them. I actually have a strat for both. One of them is this... If you intend to cantrip them in one by one you want many small ones. Also, if you have an Eldarim Champion you can cast promote on them with only 3 pts. of magic, so that is good for the progressive size. Also, you can promote them w/cities so again you would want progressive sizes.

stormywaters · rare Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 1403

Skawilly · Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:06 pm GMT Post subject:

One thing my friend is VERY fond of is using his Calvary as saves for his mages untill they get their 12 pts. of kin out then leaves them to another terrain. Thats one of his favorite (and better) strats.

piMaster · Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:33 pm GMT Post subject:

stormywaters · rare Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 1403

stormywaters · rare Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 1403

What do you think about the following army list:

18 Points
1x Gryphon
1x Enchanter
1x Knight
2x Conjurer
3x Evoker
2x Horseman

1x Green Dragon (the one I have)
1x Blue Dragonfoal
1x Blue Dragonmount
1x Blue Dragonsteed

1x Coastline City
1x Coastline something
4x Bridge minor terrain

piMaster · Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:27 pm GMT Post subject:

You've got ten points worth of mages there - standard army construction would limit you to nine points.
What types of minor terrains are you bringing? (You'd probably want only one coastland, then other types for use in other people's backyards).
Otherwise, seems like a solid magic/cav army.

Unrelated question: Why 18 points? 36 is standard, and 24 is usually the lowest used in any constructed armies.

stormywaters · rare Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 1403

piMaster · Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:51 pm GMT Post subject:

The choice of minor terrains depends on what types of terrains you think your opponent(s) might bring. You'd probably want to stick to terrains with blue or green in them (so anything except highland - unless your opponents like to bring highland terrains - in that case you would bring highlands).

For 24 points, I'd probably use
Gryphon
Eagle Knight
Knight
3 Horseman
Enchanter
2 Conjurer
5 Evokers

Though I might be tempted to take out the Gryphon to put a Herald and Guard in there instead.

stormywaters · rare Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 1403