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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:23 pm GMT Post subject: Gencon2012 - Pre-events |
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Its only 4 weeks until I start entering events for next Gencon...
So, who wants to see what? Were any events at the wrong time last year? Anything missing you wanted to see? Anything there you thought stunk?
Dragon Dice™: World Championship
Dragon Dice™: Battlefest
There two have to stay. They are too traditional.
Dragon Dice™: No Magicians!
Dragon Dice™: Multi-Player
Dragon Dice™: Single Race
No Magicians was at a bad time this year, but there was no help for it... wanna swap times? Does anyone like these? Want to see a 'worst army' instead?
Dragon Dice™:Sealed Plus-Fire in the Sky!
Dragon Dice™:Sealed Plus XL - Forest Fires!
Dragon Dice™: Sealed Starter Box
Dragon Dice™:Sealed Plus-Stay on the Path
Forest Fire was my idea and after having played it, I'm ready to move on. 4 races is too random. SO... I want to replace this with a Sealed Single Race event. You get a random 3X health of a single race (also random) and play. (it'll either be 34 or 36, I can't commit to either just yet and can't say which races it might be).
Note: that Sealed Starter events can not be played with races that are out of stock. deal with it or accept a ziplock equivalent
Dragon Dice™ Playtest: Campaigns
Dragon Dice™ Playtest: Quests
Anyone want to see these as real events this year? Anyone wanna run them  _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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dburkley rare Director
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:17 pm GMT Post subject: Re: Gencon2012 - Pre-events |
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| cliffwiggs wrote: |
Dragon Dice™™ Playtest: Campaigns
Anyone want to see these as real events this year? Anyone wanna run them  |
I'll run the Campaign events. I'm sure Russ will help me in that endeavor. _________________ Daniel Burkley
US National Champion (DEXCON 2007, 2009, 2010)
World Champion (GENCON 2008, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014)
Battlefest Champion: DEXCON 2008, 2011, GENCON 2009, 2010 (co-champion), 2011, 2017)
"No Magicians": GENCON 2008
"Single Race": DEXCON 2008, GENCON 2010, 2011, 2014 (co-champion), 2017 |
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Matthias Maccabeus rare
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:43 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Sat is the day I'm hoping to be free from running all the HeroScape events, so you should put all the good events on that day!  _________________ HeroScape - Tree Town Open Champion (2008, 2016), Nebraska Skirmish Champion (2008, 2010) GenCon LightWeight Champion (2009), GenCon General Wars (Aquilla Champion 2009) GenCon Unique Hero Champion (2009, 2010)
Dragon Dice - Gen Con Worlds Champion 2011, 2012, 2016, 2017 O Town 2013 Overall Winner |
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dburkley rare Director
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 1200 Location: Hillsborough, NJ

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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:30 pm GMT Post subject: GenCon |
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| Matthias Maccabeus wrote: | Sat is the day I'm hoping to be free from running all the HeroScape events, so you should put all the good events on that day!  |
You need to give Cliff a big clue as to what the "good events" are.  _________________ Daniel Burkley
US National Champion (DEXCON 2007, 2009, 2010)
World Champion (GENCON 2008, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014)
Battlefest Champion: DEXCON 2008, 2011, GENCON 2009, 2010 (co-champion), 2011, 2017)
"No Magicians": GENCON 2008
"Single Race": DEXCON 2008, GENCON 2010, 2011, 2014 (co-champion), 2017 |
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Matthias Maccabeus rare
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 1551 Location: Nebraska

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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:36 pm GMT Post subject: Re: GenCon |
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| dburkley wrote: | | Matthias Maccabeus wrote: | Sat is the day I'm hoping to be free from running all the HeroScape events, so you should put all the good events on that day!  |
You need to give Cliff a big clue as to what the "good events" are.  |
Single Race, Main Event, and Battlefest! _________________ HeroScape - Tree Town Open Champion (2008, 2016), Nebraska Skirmish Champion (2008, 2010) GenCon LightWeight Champion (2009), GenCon General Wars (Aquilla Champion 2009) GenCon Unique Hero Champion (2009, 2010)
Dragon Dice - Gen Con Worlds Champion 2011, 2012, 2016, 2017 O Town 2013 Overall Winner |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:27 am GMT Post subject: Re: GenCon |
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| Matthias Maccabeus wrote: | | dburkley wrote: | | Matthias Maccabeus wrote: | Sat is the day I'm hoping to be free from running all the HeroScape events, so you should put all the good events on that day!  |
You need to give Cliff a big clue as to what the "good events" are.  |
Single Race, Main Event, and Battlefest! |
That's gonna be a busy day...
single race at 8 to 12
worlds at 1 to 5
battlefest at 6 to 10 _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:29 am GMT Post subject: Re: Gencon2012 - Pre-events |
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| dburkley wrote: | | cliffwiggs wrote: |
Dragon Dice™™™ Playtest: Campaigns
Anyone want to see these as real events this year? Anyone wanna run them  |
I'll run the Campaign events. I'm sure Russ will help me in that endeavor. |
Thats good. do you want to run it as another betatest or as a novice campaign (ie demo, but we gencon won't let use the D word) or as a constructed event?
ie do you want to post rules before hand or teach them to play? do you want to provide dice/materials or have them bring? _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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dburkley rare Director
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 1200 Location: Hillsborough, NJ

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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:08 pm GMT Post subject: Re: Gencon2012 - Pre-events |
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| cliffwiggs wrote: | Dragon Dice Playtest: Campaigns
Do you want to run it as another betatest or as a novice campaign (ie demo, but we gencon won't let use the D word) or as a constructed event?
Do you want to post rules before hand or teach them to play?
Do you want to provide dice/materials or have them bring? |
Let's do the "novice campaign" events on Thursday morning & evening, Friday morning & evening, and Saturday afternoon.
"Playtest" means I provide everything: dice, board, rules, play-aids, and explain the rules, scenario, & victory conditions.
Let's do two "BYOD events", one on Friday (afternoon or evening) and one on Saturday morning. Bring your own dice from one "Good" race (ie: no black) and one "Evil" race (ie: has the black aspect). Each race must have 3 of each common die (15 dice), 2 of each uncommon die (10 dice), one of each rare die (5 dice), and three monsters (all different). Teams of 2 (if 4 players) or 3 (if 6 players) will be formed. I provide the board (tiles) & play-aids and explain the rules, scenario & victory conditions.
I can post the Basic Game rules on the forum (just let me know where) and you can provide the link to them in the event description. I'm open to running an "Advanced Game" for the BYOD event, if all the players are willing - and that adds in Dragonkin (10 commons), magic items (10 health), and mercenaries (10 commons). _________________ Daniel Burkley
US National Champion (DEXCON 2007, 2009, 2010)
World Champion (GENCON 2008, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014)
Battlefest Champion: DEXCON 2008, 2011, GENCON 2009, 2010 (co-champion), 2011, 2017)
"No Magicians": GENCON 2008
"Single Race": DEXCON 2008, GENCON 2010, 2011, 2014 (co-champion), 2017 |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:23 pm GMT Post subject: |
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we will have to decide basic or advanced when we post the description.
I will get more from you on this after the holidays.
also we might have to consider a less structured setup of dice. There are many people who don't have one of each rare, etc... _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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MikeD common Stockholder
Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 303 Location: Near Baltimore, MD

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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:10 am GMT Post subject: |
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Monster Bash?
A campaign of good versus evil?
ON a side note, I may not be able to make GENCON this year for medical reasons. I won't know more until after the first of the year. _________________ Michael DeZearn
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:38 pm GMT Post subject: Re: Gencon2012 - Pre-events |
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| dburkley wrote: |
Let's do the "novice campaign" events on Thursday morning & evening, Friday morning & evening, and Saturday afternoon.
Let's do two "BYOD events", one on Friday (afternoon or evening) and one on Saturday morning. |
10-12 and 4-6 work for you as times? and maybe 7-9 for evening? _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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dburkley rare Director
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:10 pm GMT Post subject: GenCon Events |
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That sounds fine. Sign me up. If you are still concerned about the "BYOD" aspect of the advanced games, I'll have a full distribution of dice for all the races as a back-up (but I think most players have that modest an assortment of dice to play for at least two races).
The "death" races against the "nature" races would represent a classic Esfah campaign, and most of the playtesting has revolved around this type of a scenario.
A much less playtested scenario was inspired by the Braun brothers, which I nickname "Against the Dragons". _________________ Daniel Burkley
US National Champion (DEXCON 2007, 2009, 2010)
World Champion (GENCON 2008, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014)
Battlefest Champion: DEXCON 2008, 2011, GENCON 2009, 2010 (co-champion), 2011, 2017)
"No Magicians": GENCON 2008
"Single Race": DEXCON 2008, GENCON 2010, 2011, 2014 (co-champion), 2017 |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:38 am GMT Post subject: |
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Could you assist me with a description of the event and what dice are required to be brought? something I can enter into the gencon system. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:03 am GMT Post subject: |
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Its closer than you think. Gencon2012 in Indy is just around the corner... August will be here before you know it.
This is the preliminary list of events I am entering today. If you have an issue please let me know sooner rather than later.
Here is a chart of the events and descriptions.
SFR is going BIG at Gencon this year with a double booth as well as a similar number of events as last year (backed off on plus demos). I need to start committing people as soon as I can.
| | Thursday | | | Friday | | | Saturday | | | Sunday | |
| | | Tables1,2 | Tables3,4 | Table5 | Tables1,2 | Tables3,4 | Table5 | Tables1,2 | Tables3,4 | Table5 | Tables1,2 | Tables3,4 | Table5
| | 9am | | | | | Sealed | | | SingleRace | | | |
| | 10am | Novice | | Campaign | Novice | Sealed | Campaign | Novice | SingleRace | Campaign BYOD | Novice | Stay Path | Quest
| | 11am | Novice | | Campaign | Novice | Sealed | Campaign | Novice | SingleRace | Campaign BYOD | Novice | Stay Path | Quest
| | 12pm | | | | | Sealed | | | SingleRace | Quest | | Stay Path |
| | 1pm | Novice | | Quest | Novice | | Quest | Novice | | Quest | | Stay Path |
| | 2pm | Novice | No Magicians | Quest | Novice | Fire Sky | Quest | Novice | Worlds | | | |
| | 3pm | | No Magicians | | | Fire Sky | | | Worlds | | | |
| | 4pm | Plus | No Magicians | Quest | Plus | Fire Sky | Campaign BYOD | Plus | Worlds | Campaign | | |
| | 5pm | Plus | No Magicians | Quest | Plus | Fire Sky | Campaign BYOD | Plus | Worlds | Campaign | | |
| | 6pm | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | 7pm | | Worst Army | Campaign | | SealedSingle | Campaign | | Battlefest | | | |
| | 8pm | Novice | Worst Army | Campaign | Novice | SealedSingle | Campaign | Novice | Battlefest | Quest | | |
| | 9pm | Novice | Worst Army | | Novice | SealedSingle | | Novice | Battlefest | Quest | | |
| | 10pm | | Worst Army | | | SealedSingle | | | Battlefest | | | |
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Entry Level Events
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Dragon Dice™:Novice Event
2 Hours, 1-12 players, Materials Provided, No experience required, $2 Ticket or 1 Generic
New players borrow a starter pack of dice and experience the thrill of Dragon Dice™ combat while learning the details of the game. Players can immediately transition to the Novice Plus event for a more in-depth and exciting experience. Swiss format, Demo Rules.
Thurs @ 10am, 1pm, 8pm
Fri @ 10am, 1pm, 8pm
Sat @ 10am, 1pm, 8pm
Sun @ 10am
Dragon Dice™: Novice Plus Event
2 Hours, 1-12 players, Materials Provided, No experience required, $2 Ticket or 1 Generic
Take your game to the next level! With the minimal knowledge learned during a Novice Event, players borrow a pre-constructed army of dice and take a deeper dive into the richness of the Dragon Dice™ experience by learning the details of a larger rule set. Swiss format, Starter Rules.
Thurs @ 4pm
Fri @ 4pm
Sat @ 4pm
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Constructed Events
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Dragon Dice™: No Magicians!
4 Hours, 1-12 players, Materials NOT Provided, Some experience required, $4 Ticket or 2 Generics
Sharpen your blades, restring your bows, and ready your cavalry. Esfah will be a battleground this day, not a playground for magicians! Bring a 36-health army, but don't include any magicians in this brutal slug fest. Expansion and Promo dice are not in use for this tournament. Swiss format. The following exceptions to the Standard Rules apply: No magic-using dice are allowed. (Any which has a magic or cantrip icon counts as a magic-using die)
Thurs @ 2pm
Dragon Dice™: Single Race
4 Hours, 1-12 players, Materials NOT Provided, Some experience required, $4 Ticket or 2 Generics
Bring a 36-health army composed entirely of units from your favorite race, with at most 4 commons, 3 uncommons, 2 rares and 1 monster of any type, and fight it out. Expansion and Promotional dice are not in use for this tournament. Swiss format
Sat @ 9am
Dragon Dice™: Worst Army
4 Hours, 1-12 players, Materials NOT Provided, Some experience required, $4 Ticket or 2 Generics
Only a bad warrior blames the quality of his tools. So give them the worst tools that exist. Bring the worst 36-health army you can construct. Each round will be played against the army you bring. Expansion and Promotional dice are not in use for this tournament. Swiss format
Thurs @ 7pm
Dragon Dice™: World Championship
4 Hours, 1-12 players, Materials NOT Provided, Much experience required, $4 Ticket or 2 Generics
Bring your 36-health army (no more than 18-health of magicians) and compete for the title of Dragon Dice™ World Champion! Swiss Format.
Sat @ 2pm
Dragon Dice™: Battlefest
4 Hours, 1-12 players, Materials NOT Provided, Some experience required, $4 Ticket or 2 Generics
This event isn't for the timid or weak! Bring your toughest 60-health army and join the night's battle of blood and mayhem. Bring a 60-health army composed of any combination of tournament legal dice. None of the normal army construction limits, including limitations on the number of magic users or number of any individual die, apply. Swiss format.
Sat @ 7pm
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Note: Sealed events will be completely random, but it may be 'w/o box' i.e. a baggie of the dice.<hr>
Dragon Dice™:Sealed Plus-Fire in the Sky!
4 Hours, 1-12 players, Materials Provided, Some experience required, $16 Ticket or 8 Generics
The air around you bursts into flame as the Firewalkers descend to join the battle. Starter pack and Firewalker kicker included in ticket price. Random Starters and Kickers will be assigned at the start of the first round. Swiss format.
Fri @ 2pm
Dragon Dice™:Sealed - Single Race
4 Hours, 1-12 players, Materials Provided, Some experience required, $16 Ticket or 9 Generics
Blood will be thicker than alliances, as the races segregate themselves for war. Dice, Terrains and Dragons included in ticket price. Random packs will be assigned at the start of the first round. Swiss format.
Fri @ 7pm
Dragon Dice™: Sealed Starter Box
4 Hours, 1-12 players, Materials Provided, Some experience required, $14 Ticket or 7 Generics
A true test of skill, as you compete against other Dice Commanders. Starter pack included in ticket price. Random Starters will be assigned at the start of the first round. Swiss format.
Fri @ 9am
Dragon Dice™:Sealed Plus-Stay on the Path
4 Hours, 1-12 players, Materials Provided, Some experience required, $16 Ticket or 8 Generics
The deadly Treefolk spring to life as the battle for Esfah spills into the forest. Starter pack and Treefolk kicker included in ticket price. Random Starters and Kickers will be assigned at the start of the first round. Swiss format.
Sun @ 10am
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Dragon Dice™ Campaigns: Novice Event
2 Hours, 1-6 players, Materials Provided, No experience required, $2 Ticket or 1 Generic
Command your armies on the conquest of an entire continent.
A campaign style strategy game utilizing Dragon Dice™ and a tile-based map. Players will be guided through the provided materials as they battle for supremacy.
Thurs @ 10am, 7pm
Fri @ 10pm, 7pm
Sat @ 4pm
Dragon Dice™ Campaigns: Constructed Event
2 Hours, 1-6 players, Materials NOT Provided, Some experience required, $2 Ticket or 1 Generic
Peace and Prosperity or War and Devastation? You will decide!
Players will construct a 'good' and an 'evil' campaign army. Tiles, rules and game aides will be provided.
Fri @ 4pm
Sat @ 10am
Dragon Dice™ Quests: Novice Event
2 Hours, 1-6 players, Materials Provided, No experience required, $2 Ticket or 1 Generic
All epic journeys start with a single step. Take yours now! Quests is a role-playing style strategy game utilizing Dragon Dice™. Use pre-created characters and provided components as you quest for glory in the continent of Es'fah.
Thurs @ 1pm, 4pm
Fri @ 1pm
Sat @ 12 pm, 8pm
Sun @ 10 am _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:04 am GMT Post subject: |
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FYI - some of the descriptions were modified because Gencon dropped 50 characters off the description length.
I also decided to just merge the novice and novice plus events into a single event. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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Matthias Maccabeus rare
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:45 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Woohoo!! Gen Con!!
I'll be there! _________________ HeroScape - Tree Town Open Champion (2008, 2016), Nebraska Skirmish Champion (2008, 2010) GenCon LightWeight Champion (2009), GenCon General Wars (Aquilla Champion 2009) GenCon Unique Hero Champion (2009, 2010)
Dragon Dice - Gen Con Worlds Champion 2011, 2012, 2016, 2017 O Town 2013 Overall Winner |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:50 pm GMT Post subject: |
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My head hurts. Someone review these pages for me:
http://www.sfr-inc.com/novice.php _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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DEEPBLUEB2 monster Stockholder
Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 7894 Location: Des Plaines, IL

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:44 am GMT Post subject: |
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The worlds says bring 2 dragons...
of course a white dragon can be brought...
just pointing it out. |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:46 am GMT Post subject: |
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Yeah, I know... I just didn't feel like that was needed. I think the rules say that the white counts as two dragons. so its covered. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:33 am GMT Post subject: |
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FYI - not sure if I posted it, but the event schedule above is correct EXCEPT that the Novice Plus events will just be Novice events and the exact format of Quests is TBD.
Here's a note: whoever volunteers to run those events will have great influence on which ruleset is used for that event. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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