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cliffwiggs

This is a first game and will have some stumbles, but everyone starts somewhere.

Cliff will run the board.
This will be similar to the Sealed Single event we have at Gencon except the races are predefined.

The online product simulator will be used to pick the random dice in two starter packs and the 4 terrains and the two dragons.

I will have to post those publicly, but to simulate a real setup as that you try to only look at your dice until after we have posted our initial setups. i.e. keep hidden what would be hidden in a real game.
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:50 am GMT Post subject:

We don't have a spoiler tag in this version of BBCode, so here is the next best thing. White text on a white background. you can select the text to read it or reply or whatever.

I cut n pasted your dice w/o really reading them, so no worries there.

I'll post my starting army setup (ie which terrain is my home and frontier and how I divide my units) in the same white on white format.

Cliff's Dice

Kicker1:
Drider
Necromancer
Warlock
Warlock
Spider Rider
Bladesman
Bladesman
Fusilier

Kicker2:
Drider
Conqueror
Scorpion Knight
Scorpion Knight
Spider Rider
Bladesman
Scout
Adept

Terrains:
Coastland Tower
Flatland City
Highland Temple
Swampland Temple

Dragons:
Black Drake
Red Wyrm

DiverDoug's Dice

Kicker1:
Gargoyle
Crack_Shot
Patroller
Thaumaturgist
Pony Rider
Footman
Theugist
Crossbowman

Kicker2:
Behemoth
Warlord
Lizard Rider
Thaumaturgist
Pony Rider
Pony Rider
Sentry
Crossbowman

Terrains:
Coastland Tower
Flatland Temple
Highland Standing Stones
Swampland Tower

Dragons:
Red Wyrm
Gold Drake

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cliffwiggs · Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:25 am GMT Post subject:

Here is my setup, just to document it. Once you post your setup I'll 'reveal' and post the board with the graphical dice.

Cliff's Home	Cliff's Frontier/Campaign	Cliff's SummoningPool/Horde
Highland Temple	Coastland Tower	Black Drake Red Wyrm
Drider Drider Conqueror Bladesman Bladesman Bladesman	Fusilier	Necromancer Warlock Warlock Adept Scorpion Knight Scorpion Knight Spider Rider Spider Rider Scout

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DiverDoug1978 · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:14 am GMT Post subject:

Ok. I think I did it right!!

Doug's Home	Doug's Frontier/Campaign	Doug's SummoningPool/Horde
Highland Standing Stones	Swampland Tower	Gold Drake Red Wyrm
Gargoyle Behemoth Crack Shot Thaumaturgist Thaumaturgist Pony Rider	Crossbowman	Patroller Pony Rider Pony Rider Footman Theugist Warlord Lizard Rider Sentry Crossbowman

cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:58 am GMT Post subject:

well actually... since we are playing 30 health it is only 15 health at most at the beginning. Your home army has 16. So at least one health needs to move out.
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DiverDoug1978 · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:02 am GMT Post subject:

Lets Try This

Doug's Home	Doug's Frontier/Campaign	Doug's SummoningPool/Horde
Highland Standing Stones	Swampland Tower	Gold Drake Red Wyrm
Gargoyle Behemoth Crack Shot Thaumaturgist Thaumaturgist	Crossbowman	Patroller Pony Rider Pony Rider Pony Rider Footman Theugist Warlord Lizard Rider Sentry Crossbowman

cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:17 am GMT Post subject:

Works for me! Here is the board... I really shouldn't do these manually, takes forever.

If this looks right to you, then take your horde roll and post either the total maneuvers or faces or images or whatever you feel comfortable with.

Turn Sequence: TBD

*	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	**
	Cliff BUA		Cliff DUA		Cliff Reserve Army		Cliff Summoning Pool

	Cliff Horde		Cliff Campaign		Cliff Home Army
	Doug's Home		Proposed Frontier		Cliff's Home
	Doug Home Army		Doug Campaign		Doug Horde

	Doug Summoning Pool		Doug Reserve Army		Doug DUA		Doug BUA

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cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:29 am GMT Post subject:

Cliff's horde roll
(using http://sfr-inc.com/dcm2.php - a hidden page on the website)

7 maneuvers - which is just about average.

Necromancer - 5 Magic
Scorpion Knight - 2 ID
Scorpion Knight - 2 Save
Warlock - 2 ID
Warlock - 2 Magic
Scout - 1 ID
Spider Rider - 1 ID
Spider Rider - 1 Maneuver
Adept - 1 Save
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DiverDoug1978 · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:35 am GMT Post subject:

Warlord - 3 ID
Patroller - 2 ID
Lizard Rider - 2 Melee
Footman - 1 Save
Sentry - 1 Missile
Crossbowman - 1 Missile
Pony Rider - 1 ID
Pony Rider - 1 ID
Pony Rider - 1 ID
Theugist - 2 Magic

8 Maneuvers

I will Choose the Swampland Tower for the Frontier

cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:42 am GMT Post subject:

DiverDoug1978 · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:46 am GMT Post subject:

My Home: Highland Standing Stones - 4 Missile
Frontier: Swampland Tower - 7 Melee (Turned Down to 6 Melee) Right??

cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:06 pm GMT Post subject:

Yup! 7 becomes 6.
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:11 pm GMT Post subject:

Beginning of Cliffs turn: (I try to post the board between turns, but sometimes it isn't required if it's a simple turn)

Turn Sequence: Cliff, Doug

*	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	**
	Cliff BUA		Cliff DUA		Cliff Reserve Army		Cliff Summoning Pool

	Cliff Horde		Cliff Campaign		Cliff Home Army
	Doug's Home Standing Stones		Frontier Tower		Cliff's Home Temple
	Doug Home Army		Doug Campaign		Doug Horde

	Doug Summoning Pool		Doug Reserve Army		Doug DUA		Doug BUA

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cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:17 pm GMT Post subject:

A note on timing...

In a real game there are times you would stop and wait for the opponent to make a decision or a roll.

In these online games sometimes you can skip ahead and do a Choose your own Adventure style roll or just leave some items hanging behind. I only recommend doing this if you are sure you made no errors. it is ugly having to backup and reroll something you loved getting.

So Cliff's turn.

No Initial Effects.
First March:

At the your home.

Maneuver attempt: (assuming you will counter)
My roll is: 7 (again)
Necromancer - 3 ID
Scorpion Knight - 1 Melee
Scorpion Knight - 1 Melee
Warlock - 2 Magic
Warlock - 2 Maneuver
Scout - 1 Missile
Spider Rider - 1 Melee
Spider Rider - 2 Maneuver
Adept - 1 Save

I will stop here until we resolve this maneuver attempt.
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DiverDoug1978 · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:28 pm GMT Post subject:

Ok so..

At my Home

Counter-Manuever

Manuever = 6

Behemoth - 4 Stomp
Gargoyle - 4 ID
Crack_Shot - 2 Missile
Thaumaturgist - 2 ID
Thaumaturgist - 2 Magic

I Fail to Stop Lava Elves Manuever

cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:39 pm GMT Post subject:

ok, then the terrain turns down to 3 - Magic.

Action - rolling for magic!

Necromancer - 4 Cantrip
Scorpion Knight - 1 Melee
Scorpion Knight - 2 Save
Warlock - 2 ID
Warlock - 4 Magic
Scout - 1 ID
Spider Rider - 1 ID
Spider Rider - 1 Maneuver
Adept - 1 Magic

4 ID (4 black or 8 red) + 9 red/black

now the decision... some people swear by dragons and some people hate them...

But we are playing 30 health, so... "I'ma Risk it"

Summon Dragon twice for 14 Red to send both red dragons to my home.

Fearful Flames for 3 red on a pony rider at your home.
So roll it against 1 damage. If it saves, then roll again or it flees to reserves.

Second March - at the frontier
Maneuver attempt (assuming counter)
Fusilier - 1 ID

The best you can do is tie, so I win the maneuver no matter what.

Turn the terrain up to 7.
ATTACK!

Fusilier - 1 ID

So you save against 1 and decide if you want to counter attack. (no reason not to, so assuming you will)
My save roll would be:
Fusilier - 1 ID

ok, I want to take a moment... the odds of doing that are 1 in 216. This would be a great moment to decide you trust me, but I've seen way more random things like a Troll rolling his ID 4 times in a row (1 in 10,000) or 6 Dragon Slayers all rolling Sneak Attack at once (1 in 46,656)

End of second march.

Reserves, retreat all units from my home to the reserves.

EOT.

I moved ahead a lot there, so to summarize...
1)Resolve Fearful Flames against a pony Rider
2)Counter Maneuver - thought you can only tie at best
3)Save against 1 melee Damage at the Frontier
4) If he survives in #3, Counter Attack at the Frontier (but you can't kill him)

I'll post a board update as the end of my turn with those items pending in just a moment.

The first thing that happens on your turn is the dragon attack. I'll go ahead and roll my dragon and you can roll yours and then start taking your turn.
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:42 pm GMT Post subject:

End of Cliffs turn: pending a few things

Turn Sequence: Cliff, Doug

*	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	**
	Cliff BUA		Cliff DUA		Cliff Reserve Army		Cliff Summoning Pool

	Cliff Horde		Cliff Campaign		Cliff Home Army
	Doug's Home Standing Stones		Frontier Tower		Cliff's Home Temple
	Doug Home Army		Doug Campaign (?)		Doug Horde (?)

	Doug Summoning Pool		Doug Reserve Army		Doug DUA		Doug BUA

Start of your turn: Here is my dragons roll against your army (you can roll yours)
Fire Wyrm - 6 Claw
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DiverDoug1978 · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:22 pm GMT Post subject:

Resolve Fearful Flames - Pony rider - Roll 1 maneuver. No save. Move to reserve

Counter maneuver fail as expected at frontier.

Crossbowman - roll 1 Missile fail to save at Frontier. Takes 1 damage and moves to DUA

DiverDoug1978 · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:27 am GMT Post subject:

Dragon Attack

Cliff's Dragon - Fire Wyrm - 6 Claw
Doug's Dragon - Fire Wyrm Roll - 1 treasure chest

I have no units to promote so Treasure Chest is unused

Doug's Horde Roll - Dragon Defense

Warlord - 3 Save
Crack_Shot - 3 Missile
Marksman - 3 Melee
Lizard Rider - 2 ID
Footman - 1 Save
Sentry - 1 Missile
Pony Rider - 1 Melee
Pony Rider - 1 Melee
Theugist - 1 Melee

6 - Saves (Saves + ID)

6 - Melee

4 - Missile

Doug's Dragon Doesn't Attack

Cliff's Dragon - I save against the 6 Damage to my army - No Killed Units
I attack the Dragon with 6 Melee inflicting only 1 damage due to 5 Auto Saves.

I think i got this right not sure.

DiverDoug1978 · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:53 am GMT Post subject:

Nothin like trial by fire (HA!) to start my first game ever!!