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AL1EN · dragonfoal Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 5 Location: SC

So, Did I miss it, or are there no rules for the King's Die in the new rule set?

DScottOBrien · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:50 am GMT Post subject:

You didnt miss it. The King's Die has earned the distinction of being the first die to be unsupported in v 4.0
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AL1EN · dragonfoal Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 5 Location: SC

...well that stinks! Any reason why? There's got to be thousands of them out there, and Chuck Pint can't possibly own them all Laughing

cliffwiggs · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:02 am GMT Post subject:

AL1EN · dragonfoal Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 5 Location: SC

Gah!!! Has it really been that long?!? God, I'm OLD. Time flies when you're playing Dragon Dice... Wink

Excellent points, of course. Thanks for the explanation. Guess my King's Dies will just have to sit in their 8th face Towers, watching the battles rage...

MikeD · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:12 pm GMT Post subject:

As someone who has been playing Dragon Dice since 1996, I have to agree about no longer using the King's Die. While the die itself is beautiful and was kinda useful with the first 4 races and Amazons, once additional races came out, the die became pretty much a waste of 4 points in your army construction. If royal dice are done in the future, there must be a plan to keep them relevant for the long term. I guess I'll put mine up on the shelf next to my collection of Big Greenie dice.

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AL1EN · dragonfoal Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 5 Location: SC

Yeah, sometimes we play with just the "original" races - some friends don't have tons of dice like I do. We can always keep a "house rule" for the King's Die in those games.

DScottOBrien · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:20 pm GMT Post subject:

chuckpint · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:27 pm GMT Post subject:

I'm going to post the Kings' Die rules in the next post here. You can use those as a house rule if you like. The 3.x rules are going to get taken down from our website. So this will be the only place the Kings' Die rules will be archived.
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chuckpint · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:40 pm GMT Post subject:

Kingsâ€™ Die


Amazon	Coral Elf	Dwarf	Goblin	Lava Elf	TSR

The Kings' die, also called a Royalty Die, is a 4-health unit that is put into your reserves during the Assemble Armies step. Only one Kingsâ€™ Die is allowed in a playerâ€™s forces. The five sides of the die depict kings ruling the first five races in the Dragon Dice game.
The Kingsâ€™ Die may never leave the reserves, may not be attacked or targeted by any spell or effect, and may not take damage.
The Kings' Die may not be rolled with an army.
The Kings' Die may hold an item of any color.
The Kings' Die is killed if a player has no other units in play.
During the Royalty die step of the Initial Effects phase, if a playerâ€™s forces include a Kingsâ€™ Die, they may do one of the following:
â€¢ Recruit a one health unit from your Dead Unit Area to your Reserve Army.
â€¢ Promote one unit in your Reserve Army.
â€¢ Roll the Kingsâ€™ Die. You may recruit or promote up to four health-worth of units that match the race that is rolled. If the SFR/TSR Logo is rolled the four health-worth may be from one or more races in any combination the owner wishes. You may recruit any size unit.
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Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

paulvonscott · dragonmount Joined: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 39 Location: Durham

I genuinely loved the King's Die, and was over the moon to get one, though I was never sure how useful it really was to me.

But I agree it's a bit of an oddity in the game as it stands, it doesn't cover all races and is not accessible to everyone. So I have no argument about its removal from the excellent 4th edition rules.

However, I still insist the King is not dead, but merely sleeping, and that one day, when Esfah is in dire need, he will return...