SFR, Inc.

[DScottOBrien]

Reading through the new rules, and on page one, under the acknowledgments, text reads "SFR, Inc. would like to thank the all people...", should read "SFR, Inc. would like to thank all the people..."

[DScottOBrien]

On page 4, under the section ID Icons:, last sentence in the paragraph has "...ID icon counts as a number of point of points equal...", should be "...ID icon counts as a number of point equal..."

[DScottOBrien]

I hope no one takes offense to my proofreading the rules, if so, please post and I will cease and desist.

[chuckpint]

I'm waiting for you to finish the whole thing.

Seriously, a real problem with something like this, is that the same people read it over and over. After a while it's really easy to just start missing silly little stuff like you've found. So please, go thru the whole thing, and post it here. I still have a little bit of time before this "goes to the printer" for the new starters. I'd really like to fix any and all problems.

So rather being offended, I applaud you!
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[DEEPBLUEB2]

I would like to add something on a similar line to what Chuck has mentioned....
The new Rules themselves need to be read many times to notice the intricate changes in the game.

The same thing happens to the player who has learned the rules of old,
they tend to overlook the changes,
bottom line......Play Play Play Read Read Read (in any order hehe)

[DScottOBrien]

Chuck,

Just give me a timeline as to when its needed by and I'll post anything I find

[chuckpint]

Yesterday? Ok, I'll try and be more realistic (unlike my boss). I think I have until the end of the week, I have to have this to them first thing Monday at the latest. Anything you find, go ahead and post. If you want to post multiple things in one post, feel free to do so.
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You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

[DScottOBrien]

Page 6, Under section 6. Reserve Phase, retreat bullet should be indented

Page 7, under Step 1, 2nd paragraph reads "If paying with...", should read "If playing with..."

Page 16, paragraph 7, reads "If, in order for a unit to avoid an effect or to have an effect occur it must its ID Icon", should read "If, in order for a unit to avoid an effect or to have an effect occur it must roll its ID Icon"

[DScottOBrien]

Page 18, first line reads "(i.e. dragonkin) causing them ignore all...", should read "(i.e. dragonkin) causing them to ignore all..."

Page 18, Under description of Wing, two periods end the sentence. (Minor, but I'm a bit obsessive, I guess)

[Autpost]

I'm still not sure if Teleport has an effect during a save roll. The description says both:
1.) "During any non-maneuver roll, the teleporting unit may ...." --- Non-maneuver roll would mean save roll too.
2.) Special (any action or non-maneuver avoidance roll) --- But in the bracket there is no (army) save roll, just the save avoidance roll.
I've looked it up:

[DScottOBrien]

Page 21, under Lava Elves, paragraph 5- "...and none save Lave Elves have ever seen it." should read "...and none save Lava Elves have ever seen it."

Page 25, paragraph 13 (example 1), reads "...carrying one magical item takes, 9..." should read "...carrying one magical item takes 9..." (remove comma)

Page 28, under Multiplicity, first sentence reads "...during a single magic action or the resolution..." should read "...during a single magic action or in the resolution..."

[DScottOBrien]

Page 37, under Note: (12th paragraph), reads "In the later case...", should be "In the latter case..."

Clarification on page 48, under minor terrains-disasters. Rules state place the minor terrain out of the game. Does this mean it is "buried" or placed in the summoning pool for use at another time?

Page 50, paragraph 2, last sentence reads "Note carefully that", should read "Note carefully that:"

Clarification on page 52, regarding Dragonmasters. States You ca bring at most one Dragonmaster (of each color) for each 24 health of battle size. The maximum number of Dragonmasters in an army is equal to the number of dragons you must bring. Is the maximum number applied to all Dragonmasters (i.e. a 36 point army can have 1 black and 1 red) , or is the maximum applied to each color DM, (i.e. 2 black and 2 red)?

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[DScottOBrien]

And this post officially concludes my anal-retentive scrutiny of the rules.

[DEEPBLUEB2]

Page 39
Special Action Icons

I feel the reference to the Feral Tiger-Folk as a misprint should be deleted.
The Double Strike icon is listed correctly in the SAI section.
The new rules don't need to clarify old mistakes.

Also on the same page is a reference to the Dragonlord's logo face
generating 0 results,
if anything might need a special footnote,
I think the Dragonlord should only have a Magic Value of 3 points,
like the Vampire since its only magic is a cantrip.
Otherwise I think the Dragonlord needs an Exception clause
Stating it is 4 points of Magic.

[DScottOBrien]

Jim,

As far as the doublestrike error, IMO, in order to avoid possible confusion (read as ... for those who don't like to read everything in print...) the more clarification the better.
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[DEEPBLUEB2]

Actually I see the trouble and I'm in error.
if using the double strike as just an icon,then it would generate 3 hits.
4 that is if it was a monster,
but then it would only be 1 hit on a 6 sided unit,
The reference to misprint has a sad conotation,
I would rather see "special icon",rather than misprint.
sorry about that

[DScottOBrien]

Hey, no need to apologize I'm just doing what I can. I'm sure we'd all like to see as professional a product as possible get produced. Speaking from my own experience, I've bought games that were produced so poorly, I was immediately turned off, with the overall impression that production that the company was run out of a teenagers bedroom.

Presentation is everything in marketing
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[piMaster]

[piMaster]

I'd like to say thanks to lokidchser for going thru the rules and finding all the "misprints".

I know its a lot of work to go thru the rules in such detail (from having done it myself dozens of times earlier this year).
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[DEEPBLUEB2]

The Rare Dragonkin has a Single Icon Breath,(this is not considered a Misprint and it is a six sided unit)
Breath is listed twice in the SAI Section to clarify Breath.
So the Single Icon Double-Strike on the Tiger-Folk Could be Listed separately in the SAI section without reference to misprints.
(and listing the 4 hit points)and this would help clarify Double Strike