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[cliffwiggs]

when halving something twice through two different effects (like two different spells that both halve missile)

Do we really divide the results by 4 or do we just divide by 2 twice or is there a difference?

I'm too hot to think it through, but with Gas going up a dime a night I can't turn on the AC.

Cliff

[chuckpint]

The section on Spell's effects is quite clear:

[cliffwiggs]

[piMaster]

[chuckpint]

Besides Burning Hands, there is: Flaming Armor (Lava Elf), Flaming Spears (Amazon), Wilding (Feral).

Unit modifiers are normally only used when a unit is rolled against some effect that targets units.

The really weird one is Trumpet. It doubles at the unit level, but only works during an army roll. And it only affects Feral units.

However, I think you missed the point in the Racial Abilities section. It says: "Racial abilities are applied to the army or to a unit when rolled individually." That means that racial abilities are applied to army rolls, OR to individual rolls of a unit. So a Coral Elf being struck by a Lightning Strike at a Coastland that rolls a maneuver has saved.

So during an army roll, about the only things that would happen on a unit level are the 4 spells above, Elevate and Trumpet. Then everything else would happen as an army.

Note there are several cases where a unit could return results that one of the above spells would double, but because it was from the racial ability, it happens after the multiply step, doesn't happen. For example, a Firewalker unit with Burning Hands cast on it, is rolled for a melee attack as part of an army. It gets a save. It's racial ability lets it convert the save to melee, but it would not be doubled by the Burning Hands. And furthermore, the Burning Hands doubling happens during the unit modifiers, while the racial ability would happen during the army modifiers.
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[cliffwiggs]

[cliffwiggs]

You didn't say it but it sounds like my assumption was correct. Unit rolls and army rolls have to be resolved following two slightly different processes.