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[chuckpint]

I've just done an edit to the rules. The changes are as follows:

1. Some spelling mistakes:

   Quote:

   Page 14, Paragraph 6, Line 2 reads: “This army would not have to make a save due to the affect of the Backlash….” It should be “effect”. Page 19, under TEMPLE, very last line reads: “has no affect on the army…” It should be “effect”. I believe the Name of the Earth God is Eldurim. Under the Racial Abilities section, the name Eldurim is used for the Dwarves and The Goblins. However, for the Amazons (page 21), the Feral (page 22) and the Treefolk (page 24), the spelling used is Eldarim. On page 54, paragraph 2 of the “flavor text”, line 4, the spelling used is Eldrurim. Page 38, Paragraph 9, Line 2 reads: “…directly (e.g. Regenerate) or though the use…” It should be “through”.

   
   
2. Added section on Hybrid Dragons.
   
3. Added section on Hybrid Ivory Dragons.
   
4. Updated the description of "Instant" under "SAI Special Action Icons – General Information"/Application.
   
5. Updated the "dragon attack" entry under "Special Action Icons – General Information"/Application.
   
6. Added two new paragraphs under "Special Action Icon (SAI) List" header.
   
7. Changed the header on many SAIs (note: read the new paragraphs under "Special Action Icon (SAI) List" before looking at the headers).
   
8. Where needed added to the description what a corresponding avoidance roll would do.
   

New file can be downloaded from here
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[eggsaladsandwich]

Where in the rules (what page) do we find out how many auto saves the White dragon has ...5 or 10? thanks, Egg
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[Pelter_Boy]

They have 5 auto saves.

This isn't said specifically in the rulebook, but it does say that dragons have 5 auto saves, so that applies to the Whites as well as the Elemental and Ivories.

Maybe the rules should say under white dragon in the rulebook that they have 5 auto saves.
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[chuckpint]

I've added to the rules. New version on the website now.
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[chuckpint]

Just reviewed all the rules discussion since the last rules update. I've updated a number of sections based on those discussions.

Dragon Breath
Magically Constructed Army (Glossary)
Flashfire
Outline of Play (last page)
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[Autpost]

IMHO some remarks:

p17: "... First, it must subtract 6 maneuvers because of the Transmute Rock to Mud spell. Next it must subtract two results because of the Ash Storm spells. The player chooses to subtract one maneuver result and one save result. This leaves five maneuver results, two save results, and two health-worth of ID icons. ..."
In another topic (Checking a few things #1) it has been said that Ash Storm cannot subtract maneuvers , because it was a save roll only and Ash Storm (or Palsy) subtracts only from those results for which you have rolled (i.e. in this example saves only).

p34: Flashfire: Note: this takes affect at the same time as other rerolling effects (i.e. “Instant” SAIs and Groupmonster IDs). (ok, not necessary to add this, but if you do, there would be all three rerolls mentioned together)

p41: Counter: does not mention melee avoidance roll
either: During a melee attack or melee avoidance roll, ... generates melee results;
or: Counter: Normal (melee attack, save, and dragon attack); (if it does not work during an avoidance roll)
???

p2: There are some ":" in the table of content. (Dragons:, Spells:, SAI List:)
p45: Sneak Attack: Any Dragonkin selected as casualties are (killed and) buried.
p68: The ShadowChaser has a capital C in it. Typo or ok?
p76 last page: The Retreat Step is on the left side (on p6 it is ok)

[Deeghter]

Nowhere in the rules I found stated that dragons/wyrms can be summoned away from a terrain!?

Or is that not valid anymore??
Referring to THIS
http://sfr-inc.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1499
it still is.

Casting costs for White Dragons not mentioned in spell list.
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[chuckpint]

The spell simply states the the dragon is summoned to the target terrain. Since it does not state where the dragon comes from, that means that it can come from another terrain or the summoning pool. Read any Summon Dragonkin spell and compare to any Summon Dragon spell and I think you will see the difference.

White dragon summoning cost is covered under the white dragon rules. We decided not to have a new spell in each of the 5 colors just for summoning a white dragon.
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[chuckpint]

Put in all of Autpost's corrections.

Also fixed "Step 1" under Dragon Attack in the main rules so that Hybrid dragons would properly trigger a roll by a Dragonhunter or Dragonmaster that matched a color of the Hybrid. Also fixed Step 6: Dragon Slaying. Also updated the description of the Dragonhunter, Dragonmaster, and Dragonkin Champion Logo SAI for Hybrid dragons. Updates to the main description sections for the same three units.

Updated the copyright to include 2007.
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[chuckpint]

Since there have been no comments or other updates for nearly two weeks, I'm going to publish these as the official rules as of October 1. If you have any other comments, get them here soon.
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[Deeghter]

[chuckpint]

Well, yea, I put out new rules, so no reason to keep the "proposed" rules around. Just look at the new rules.....
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[Deeghter]