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cliffwiggs · Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:37 pm GMT Post subject: Dispel roll

I'm probably just over thinking this but...

Simple version: Does a group monster reroll its ID on a dispel roll?

Complex version: What type of roll is the Dispel roll (or does it matter)? There is specific text in the Avoidance roll section that clarifies that group ID's reroll on Avoidance rolls. Is this considered a Dispel Avoidance roll? Additionally, The Group ID description (not in the advanced rules BTW its only in the racial booklets) says 'on any roll' and 'any means any'

I'm thinking that the answer is yes, but I've never seen this happen in a game so I thought I'd clarify.

Cliff the 'what-if' demon

eggsaladsandwich · Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:48 pm GMT Post subject: dispell roll

i would think that you can. dispell rolls should be treated as avoidance rolls in that you are "avoiding" magic. just my opinion though, den
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chuckpint · Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:01 pm GMT Post subject:

Ok, so there are no die that is a group monster and has Dispel Magic. Dispel rolls are not avoidance rolls. They are a special group all unto themselves. Dispel Magic is a conditional roll. Here's the glossary entry for this:

cliffwiggs · Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:52 pm GMT Post subject:

chuckpint · Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:41 am GMT Post subject:

Dang, Scalders must be the only rule book I don't have the newest doc file for. I read the doc file rather than the pdf from Will. Since that pdf also formed the rules booklet that went into the Scalders reprint, it's the latest rules. So yes, the Will o'Wisps is a group monster. But it still does not get a reroll on a Dispel Magic roll if it's ID comes up.

There's always gotta be one exception in the rules!

eggsaladsandwich · Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:02 pm GMT Post subject: group monster

chuckpint · Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:24 pm GMT Post subject:

Per the Scalder's racial rulebook (http://www.sfr-inc.com/scalders.pdf) there are two group monsters. The Web Birds and the Will o' Wisps. Of the two, Will o' Wisps is the one with Dispel Magic on it. My first answer was based on looking at an older version of the rules where only the Web Birds were a group monster. Sorry about that.