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cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:34 pm GMT Post subject: Multiple Frontier Variation

I was laying in bed and I thought of this variation that we might try in an online game...

All rules are as per current rulebook except for these variations:

The winner of the horde roll goes first. There is no terrain selection.

All players keep their proposed frontier and it simply becomes a part of the meta-frontier.

A players campaign army must start at his frontier terrain.

As it pertains to missile, all frontier terrain's are considered 'adjacent' to eachother. ie from a person's home terrain, you can only target that players frontier terrain. From a players frontier terrain, you can target that players home terrain or any other frontier terrain. As normal, a tower can target any terrain. Amazon reserves can only target their home or their frontier.

To win the game you must capture two HOME terrains. You can capture a frontier terrain for the 8th face benifits, but it does not apply towards the victory condition.

The only difficult part will be representing the game. Essentially you have a star configuration with a fully connected ring as the center.

Thoughts? tweaks before we play?
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DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:43 pm GMT Post subject:

How about .......

If player's frontiers match exactly,
then there is only one.

So if 2 players bring a Flatland Standing Stones,
then they both start at the same Flatland standing stones.

Whoever has the higher horde roll ...
rolls the terrain for distance.

Deeghter · rare Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 2553 Location: Lost

Why not having 2 of the same kind as frontier terrains?? It happens with home terrains all the time!
There's still the possibility of starting at different distances at those similar terrains! (e.g. one might be on magic, the other one on melee).

Sounds like an interesting dea, but it needs to be tried out to be able to judge.

But I think one thing is for sure: you can forget about it in a two-players-game! Rolling Eyes

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cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:06 pm GMT Post subject:

I dislike the collapsing idea. There are 2*N terrains on the table.

Deeghter · rare Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 2553 Location: Lost

AGREED!!!
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DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:43 pm GMT Post subject:

5 Player Multi Frontier

Like This?

DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:06 pm GMT Post subject:

Player 2

Player 3

Player 4

Player 1

Player 5

5 Player Multi Frontier with multi players at a single frontier

I needed to add 2 extra rows....
but here is what it would be if all players were at a single frontier at the same time...
making sure there is enough room.

DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:12 pm GMT Post subject:

Maybe the frontier could be represented with this mini game board...
and a full gameboard would represent the rest of the game with no frontier.... Very Happy

Just the word frontier would be at the center.

So if you were to missile the frontier.....
you would look at the mini chart as a reference.

DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:20 pm GMT Post subject:

**				****		****				**
	Player 1	BUA						BUA	Player 2
	Reserves	DUA	Summoning Pool				Reserves	DUA	Summoning Pool
	Horde	Home
		Home						Home

					Frontier

		Home						Home

	Summoning Pool	DUA	Reserves				Summoning Pool	DUA	Reserves
	Player 5	BUA						BUA	Player 3
**				**

**								Home

							Summoning Pool	DUA	Reserves
								BUA	Player 4
**				****		****				**

Frontier

Player 2

Player 3

Player 4

Player 1

Player 5

Deeghter · rare Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 2553 Location: Lost

I think 5 players is too much anyway, just take a look at the present Ghost Roller Open game!!! Man, that game was slow (and still is!!).

Anyhow, I like the basic idea, the rest will be shown in a test.

I think the test run should be limited to 3 players (just a suggestion).

A 2-player-game might be very interesting to check as well!
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DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:33 pm GMT Post subject:

I just made a five player graph because Cliff mentioned a star formation.

I made this layout to illustrate the mini frontier graph,
which makes sense since you need 2 home terrains to win,
the frontier becomes an auxiliary game-board anyways.

cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:36 pm GMT Post subject:

not all stars have 5 points. you can have a two pointed star. it looks like a line.

but I agree, limit it to 2-4 players for now.

i like the 'inset' idea, just have to be careful to remember that a home can only target the same players frontier with missile.

BTW, this type of variation also makes it a good idea to bring a tower to the frontier now because you can target anyones home, not just the one you are 'closest' to.
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DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:14 am GMT Post subject:

Multi Frontier (4 Player)

**				****				**
	Player 1	BUA				BUA	Player 2
	Reserves	DUA	Summoning Pool		Reserves	DUA	Summoning Pool

		Player 1 Home				Player 2 Home



		Player 1 Frontier				Player 2 Frontier



		Player 4 Frontier				Player 3 Frontier



		Player 4 Home				Player 3 Home

	Summoning Pool	DUA	Reserves		Summoning Pool	DUA	Reserves
	Player 4	BUA				BUA	Player 3

DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:19 pm GMT Post subject:

Setup:

**		****		****				**
	Player 1	BUA				BUA	Player 2
	Reserves	DUA	Summoning Pool		Reserves	DUA	Summoning Pool
	Horde	Home			Horde	Home
		Player 1 Home				Player 2 Home


		Campaign				Campaign
		Player 1 Frontier				Player 2 Frontier



		Player 4 Frontier				Player 3 Frontier
		Campaign				Campaign


		Player 4 Home				Player 3 Home
		Home	Horde			Home	Horde
	Summoning Pool	DUA	Reserves		Summoning Pool	DUA	Reserves
	Player 4	BUA				BUA	Player 3