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[goldbh]

I have noticed that some (most?) players are not using a lot of 'Light' dice in their armies. In fact it appears that some collectors are selling these as redundant dice! Would anyone like to comment on the reason for this and if it is directly connected with the dropping of the Charge rule.
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[Deeghter]

Pretty easy to answer!
As we have talked about army construction before, the best way to asemble an army is to specialize it.
A mixed army with missile, magic, maneuvers, saves and melee is versatile but since it can do EVERYTHING, but nothing very good, it's most likely to be defeated.

Now take a look at most of the light melee troops. They mostly ave pretty equally distrinuted icons of most of the fighters' abilities. Their rolling results are much less predictable as if I would use a highly melee-specialized unit instead.

There are exeptions of course, so you can't say this about EVERY race or EVERY light melee unit.

I liked to play those dice in beginners games, because you simply throw together your army, ending up with a little bit of everything, throw in a couple of magicians and off you go without having to bother about army construction.
Once you've started to get deeper into the game, assembling your armies by following certain strategies, you start to forget about those "jack of all trades"-dice and in the end I never used them again.

But I say again, there's a few exceptions to the rule.

In my opinion I agree with the above mentioned collectors.
To be honest, if you would remove most of the light melee units entirely from the game, you wouldn't lose anything.
Dividing the existing races into melee, cavalry, missile and magicians would suffice.

I think it has nothing to do with the lost rule for charging. If I would want to assemble an army for charging, there's a better way. Charging requires lots of maneuvers. You don't find "Trample" or "Rend" in light melee rares!
I would always use a combination of heavy melee and cavalry!!
Using a race that can use maneuvers as saves would be first choice because you end up with a highly specialized army in melee, maneuvers and saves (at least at THEIR terrains).
AGAIN, even here light melee troops don't add anything else but random roll results!
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[willpell]

I like generalist armies, since in my opinion you get forced into playing on your opponent's turf often enough that it helps to have options. In particular, Amazon Runners are handy because they can count their maneuvers as missile at flatlands, while also having actual missile for when they get stuck at non-flatlands.

The game could maybe do with some more ways to convert icons, to make these dice more valuable. But then, the Acolytes are just going to not have light dice, so perhaps SFR as a whole agrees with this sentiment.
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[cliffwiggs]

[willpell]

Okay, my mistake. I thought I remembered from the New Race thread that they were dropping Light troops in favor of Shieldbearers. That would have left five units specialized toward the five icons in the game, which seemed like a logical choice if you had decided Light wasn't effective. But it was a while ago that I read the thread, so I guess I misremembered something.
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