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Pelter_Boy uncommon
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 519 Location: East Brunswick, NJ

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:12 pm GMT Post subject: |
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The prize will go to whoever gets DDTQ#10 right, provided an answer is found to DDTQs#7-9.
The prize will also be announced at that time.
And the prize is NOT my pelters...or me...in fact, I don't quite know what it is... _________________ Former Destroyer, son of Ddice
2006 World Champion of Dragon Dice
AKA Roburk the Insane Winged Demon Undead Pelter, Champion of S&JW
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Autpost common Stockholder
Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 471 Location: Vienna

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:50 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Then the next question is probably: Which SAI is the rarest?
Take the entire amount of dice in existence worldwide and count the number of sides showing a certain SAI. Lowest number = rarest SAI.
Actually I don't know the right answer, but I have three suspects.
(Those who know the exact numbers may not post the right answer before tomorrow.) |
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chuckpint White Dragon SFR President Site Admin
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 9187 Location: Evanston, IL

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:19 pm GMT Post subject: |
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OK, I figured it out, and the answer is really going to surprise everyone. I'll wait to post this tomorrow night. _________________ You can never have too many dice.
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:25 pm GMT Post subject: |
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I'm assuming it's normal production dice, so the TSR Logo won't work...
I can't wait until tomorrow, I was trying to work this out logically and I had it all way way down to reprint frostbreath, but then I realized that for an SAI you have to add the original release as well.
so then I got into wondering if the total number of orignal plus reprint of any reprinted race was more or less than any non-reprinted races numbers...
then I decided I didn't really care that much.
so its either frostbreath or any face on the kings die(but those aren't sai's) so I'm sticking with frostbreath. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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chuckpint White Dragon SFR President Site Admin
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 9187 Location: Evanston, IL

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:48 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Go back and read Autpost's rules. "entire amount of dice in existence worldwide". Nothing about promo or productions. _________________ You can never have too many dice.
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Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
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Autpost common Stockholder
Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 471 Location: Vienna

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:02 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Frostbreath can be found only on one unit and only on one side, but the Cryohydra is not a rare monster. If you count Promos as well, there are a lot of frostbreaths out there. |
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DEEPBLUEB2 monster Stockholder
Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 7894 Location: Des Plaines, IL

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:06 pm GMT Post subject: |
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There is only three of these in the world!!!
Trample with a border.
Red the Pink |
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piMaster rare Stockholder
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3235 Location: Rockford, IL

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:18 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| The TSR Logo on the Gold Medallion. |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:29 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Autpost wrote: | | Frostbreath can be found only on one unit and only on one side, but the Cryohydra is not a rare monster. If you count Promos as well, there are a lot of frostbreaths out there. |
I thought about frostbreath a lot. look at the three ultra-rare monsters that have been reprinted, no unique SAI's on them.
look at the rare monsters of the races that ahve been reprinted, either no unique or a its on the monster twice.
I made an assumption that there are less than twice as many uncommon monsters as rare monsters.
'all dice in existance'... I got it. the Treasure icon on a wyrm. that is an SAI right?
or its gotta be the TSR logo on the slayer/master/lord/dkin. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:31 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| piMaster wrote: | | The TSR Logo on the Gold Medallion. | Does that count as a seperate SAI from the ones on the other medallions? Just because they do different things they are still the same icon.
if we count those as different I think there were less slayer TSR logo icons. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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piMaster rare Stockholder
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3235 Location: Rockford, IL

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:16 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| cliffwiggs wrote: | | Does that count as a seperate SAI from the ones on the other medallions? Just because they do different things they are still the same icon. |
They are listed as seperate SAIs in the rules.
Autpost needs to make some clarifications. |
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Autpost common Stockholder
Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 471 Location: Vienna

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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:37 am GMT Post subject: |
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I don't know either. The logo is confusing; I would suggest two questions: (with and without logo)
1.) Considering all logos as only one SAI which has the name "Logo" and the effect: use die-specific ability. For clarity reasons it is seperated into 8 parts in the SAI-list.
2.) As it is written in the SAI-list of the rules: There are listed 8 logo-SAIs:
SFR Logo (Dragonhunter)
SFR/TSR Logo (Dragonkin Champion)
SFR/TSR Logo (Dragonlord)
SFR/TSR Logo (Dragonmaster)
SFR/TSR Logo (Dragonslayer)
SFR/TSR Logo (Bronze Medallion)
SFR/TSR Logo (Gold Medallion)
SFR/TSR Logo (Silver Medallion)
So in this list there is no King's ID, white dragon breath, TSR Logo (gold DKC), Sonic Blast, Trample with a border, ...
What about Charm and Teleport? There are not so many Treefolks produced and the Unicorn is rare. |
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DEEPBLUEB2 monster Stockholder
Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 7894 Location: Des Plaines, IL

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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:03 am GMT Post subject: |
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So far nothing has even come close to Trample with a Border...
or don't I count?  |
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chuckpint White Dragon SFR President Site Admin
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 9187 Location: Evanston, IL

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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:50 am GMT Post subject: |
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| Autpost wrote: | | What about Charm and Teleport? There are not so many Treefolks produced and the Unicorn is rare. |
Trust me. There are plenty of Treefolk, and plenty of Unicorns. Unicorns have a rarity of 1:11. Omyrr, Frost Ogre, and Unseelie Faeries have rarity of 1:60. I can tell you there are more Unicorns made than Frost Ogre and Unseelie Faeries. There are more Omyrrs made than Unicorns. _________________ You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count). |
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piMaster rare Stockholder
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3235 Location: Rockford, IL

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:38 am GMT Post subject: |
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| So Chuck, what is the answer you figured out? |
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chuckpint White Dragon SFR President Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:20 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Well, if you count each SAI that has a different description as unique, then it's the TSR on the Gold Medallion. If you count each SAI that is a different symbol, then the five racial faces on the Kings' Die are the rarest. However, if you count each Dragon breath as unique, then it's the Hybrid dragon's Breath SAI. And yes, Dragon Breath is a SAI. _________________ You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count). |
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