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willpell · common Joined: 29 Nov 2008 Posts: 180

Well, I'm back to spending money on a game I seldom play, and I'm okay with that; five years is a good long break, and if SFR managed to survive without my money all this time, then I can loosen up a little now that I'm gainfully employed, just for the sake of savoring that new die smell.

But thinking back on the olden days, I think part of the reason I stopped playing, other than my outrage at the removal of Charging, was simply that I perceived the game as tending to ossify. It seemed like the only viable strategy was to concentrate all your forces into one army, take a terrain, and then cast magic to kill the other guy's forces one by one. He'd then gather his forces into one army to try and take out your one army, and the game was just really dull and straightforward-seeming.

Is this problem all in my head? Or, if it exists, what do folks do to get around it? How do you pep the game up and keep a good bit of variety in it? Is anything other than absolute optimization (all-missile Amazons, all-melee Dwarves, all-magic Swamp Stalkers, etc.) viable when employed against the same?

I'd be curious to hear how my experience compares with others'.
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chuckpint · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:54 am GMT Post subject:

I think the best answer to that is to look thru some of the games that have been played here on the forums.
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Deeghter · rare Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 2553 Location: Lost

Yeah!
FIRST:
Just take a look at the online games here in the forum.
Dull "one-way-games" usually happen to beginners who haven't got the tactical and strategic experience yet.

Once you play against a more experienced player you'll find out that there's a lot more ways to win a game.

I REALLY can recommend taking part in the forum's online games.

Even though it takes a lot more time to finish a game in comparison to a real-life-game, it's still very enjoyable.
YOU CAN LEARN A LOT FROM WATCHING THE OTHERS PLAY!!

JOIN THEM!!! Very Happy

SECOND:

Take a look at Jim's "Tips & Tricks" section!!
There's a lot of useful advice regarding tactics and strategy as well as combining spells, racial abilities and SAIs.
SURPRISE your opponent with underhand plans he/she didn't expect!!

THIRD:

Section "Game Strategy"!!!
Check it out!
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eggsaladsandwich · Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:57 am GMT Post subject:

In the beginning my group did the same thing (consolidate), so we made a house rule that you were never allowed to have more than half your starting army size at any 1 terrain ever. (ie.. in a 36 point game, you could never have more than 18 pts at any terrain during the game).
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DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:08 am GMT Post subject:

cliffwiggs · Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:25 am GMT Post subject:

DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:31 am GMT Post subject:

Scott Cobbs 2005:
4 Dragon Masters and 2 health of Apprentices
Seems like the same thing heavy melee Magicians.

So a list of armies would help everyone.
I've been pushing for this for a long time...
BTW..I never saw your 2007 World Champion Army Cliff. Wink

cliffwiggs · Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:34 am GMT Post subject:

DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:36 am GMT Post subject:

I have pictures from afar...and the movie of when they announced when you won though...

any magic?

cliffwiggs · Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:02 am GMT Post subject:

DEEPBLUEB2 · Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:38 pm GMT Post subject:

dburkley

ddicerc · Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:39 pm GMT Post subject:

The idea that playing "against the grain" can give you an edge against other, maybe even superior armies, played out in Nationals this year. Dan used an army similar to his World Champion, Robert used one similar to his WC army from'06, and Mike DeZearn had another melee-heavy army. Jonathan had the only missile-oriented army in the finals, and he picked apart the melee guys in the multi and then in the head-to-heads (2 wins, 1 loss). He had the army that wasn't like the rest, and in this case it worked to give him the title.

BTW, the semi-official term for bunching all your units in one army is :playing Canadian." In our home games, you're required to stand and sing the first line of "O, Canada" when you do it.
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