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DEEPBLUEB2
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| Quote: | I'm surprised you chose Morehl Disciple....
as the Id is a blend of Marauder and Warlord....
however the weapons are Morehl™.
Makes Sense. |
The Disciple:
The smites show what units were used to blend them.
So the Selumari Disciple is a blend of the IDs of the LE Conqueor and CE Protector...with the Smites of the LE and CE
The Morehl Disciple is a blend of the IDs of the Goblin Marauder and the Dwafr Warlord.... with the smites of the Dwarf and Goblin.
This unit however uses the Morehl weapons...melee and shield...
as at this level of the blend, the axes and shields of the dwarves have been dropped.
So my concern here for naming this unit....Morehl Disciple
is not that it follows the Group II rules...
but it's predecessor...
the uncommon.
That is labeled a trog...which it is a blend of Goblin and Dwarf.
It's really the only naming concern...the rest look correct, with your decisions on IDs over the group thing.
So another story here....
The Coral Elves and lava elves are known enemies...
good versus evil...
but here at the Disciple level...they merge as one...
thus the smite of the LE and CE are used...and the ID of the Rare heavy melee are blended together.
Now the progression of Eldarim blending...in the weapons , eventually is all...Morehl and Selumari ...
so I don't think it is a strong enough reason to use to determine which ancient race name should be assigned to the Goblin/Dwarf Disciple.
So I think it should be a Trog Disciple.
Now....
I just wanted to clarify the reasons behind the smites.
Also the maruader/warlord was my first choice in blending...based on a few thing...one of them was they both had horn helmets.
There is allot of tension in the blends..as the artwork supersedes the progressions in some cases...
this all adds so really wild situations.
So I like the overall choices you (Chuck) have made...but I'm just wondering why the weapons determine the anctient race in the Disciple,
while in other cases...the artwork decided the anceint race.
For instance....the trog racer...is from Group 1...
or the Selumari....
but only becuase of the Shield...
so your decision was to use trog...based on the ID...from the goblin race...plus the Goblin maneuvers.
This is fine...it just does not go with the concept of dividing by shields and melee...rather it quite apperent it is a goblin or trog...
so with this in mind...
the Disciple has the smites like I mentioned but not the weapons and saves...
but the Id is of Goblin and Dwarf.
ok rambled enough...... |
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chuckpint
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:37 am GMT Post subject: |
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Ok, Jim, I see your point. I've updated the sheet with that change.
http://sfr-inc.com/Named_All.pdf
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MikeD
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:04 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Names look good to me. Now to translate my matrix numbers into the names Chuck has suggested.
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Drachenwurfel
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| Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:19 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| i have a lot eldarim to trade here, does anybody at this time know any trade value and individual naming for the dice? |
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DEEPBLUEB2
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:47 am GMT Post subject: |
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| The naming is pretty much done...piMaster's DDinventory has the names listed..plus a trade value as well based on Chuck's points...also scroll up and download the pdf Chuck has posted... |
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Drachenwurfel
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:30 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| cool, thanks |
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Drachenwurfel
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| Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:29 pm GMT Post subject: |
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i downloaded the manager, but dont have the points.
Can Anybody tell me how to set them? |
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piMaster
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| Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:14 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Drachenwürfel wrote: | i downloaded the manager, but dont have the points.
Can Anybody tell me how to set them? |
Assuming that you're using DD Inventory, there is a download link to the file that contains Chuck's points in the first post: http://www.sfr-inc.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2250
Download the file, start up DD Inventory, goto the Dragon Dice inventory screen, click on the [Chucks Points] button, and point it to the file you downloaded. |
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