SFR, Inc.

[cliffwiggs]

Yes, its early, but make those travel arrangements early and start saving your pennies.

Anyone know they are coming to Gencon2010 this year? anyone who's gonna help do demos and run events?

Anyone like/dislike the events schedule last year? Thoughts for the novelty events?

I wish it was august already, I'm tired of this cold weather.
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[piMaster]

[cliffwiggs]

[chuckpint]

We need to have an "Intermediate" pre-constructed event or three. Basically intermediate events are just the starter dice, but with the full set of rules. Since there are no "expansion" dice, the rules are simpler based on that alone. I propose that we take one full demo set and then the player has 2 races for a total of 36 health. Or as an alternative, take 2 demo sets into one for the intermediate in order to have 36 health single-race armies.
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You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

[cliffwiggs]

We can easily schedule the intermediate event to follow the novice. we might get people to attend both, one right after another.

From my conversations with Derek last year it all comes down to chairs. We can get a certain number of chairs for the weekend and can fill them as often as we want and have people to run events.
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[chuckpint]

So our goal is to fill all the chairs all day.....
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You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

[cliffwiggs]

John's gonna need help running those events.
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[chuckpint]

Well, if Brad S, John K, Mike D all show up, that should be a good core group to run the events.

Don't forget we have an official policy now on hotel and badge reimbursement for helping us run events. Our goal at GenCon is to let as many people as possible know we are around, and get them interested in the game. A secondary goal (very secondary) is to make money. We consider it good enough to just break even. If you ask Tiffany , our other goal is to make sure we don't have to haul any product back!
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You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

[dburkley]

[piMaster]

[cliffwiggs]

[chuckpint]

Here's a quick summary:

Sealed Box (20 players)
Eldarim Sealed Box (9 players)
Single Race (7 players)
World Championship (6 players)
Battlefest (6 players)
No Magicians (3 players)
Monster Bash 100 (2 players)

I think we should drop the last two. We will not be doing Eldarim Sealed box again, that was just to promote Eldarim. But clearly we need more sealed box events.

Suggestions from the past: Fire in the Sky (one starter, one Firewalker kicker), Night of the Dead (one starter, one Undead). New suggestions, same format, but use up Feral unboxed dice. Also can do with Treefolk (moldy boxes, toss box, keep dice). So all of those are a Starter plus a kicker. Sort thru the mess, keep 2 terrains, 36 health of dice, both dragons (whether you can use them or not). If you do use the Feral or Undead bags of dice, then don't put Undead/Feral starter in the mix.
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You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

[cliffwiggs]

[cliffwiggs]

[chuckpint]

Problem with those time slots is that everyone in booth can't go to them. And we have to staff the events. Not everyone is at GenCon on Thursday and Friday afternoon. Saturday is always full.

I'm all in favor of dropping those as constructed events, and instead have more novice or even intermediate events. Given how tight we are on staff on Thursday and Friday, perhaps just running Novice events all day would be fine. Or run a Novice event, follow with Intermediate, and alternate. Something like this:

9am Novice
noon Intermediate
3pm Novice
7pm Intermediate (this one would overlap with the main event)

Do just a 7pm event on Thursday and Friday. Saturday have the above, plus a noon event and a 7pm event. Sunday, run a 10am and 1pm Novice and Intermediate, with an advanced event at noon.

That leaves:
Battlefest
Worlds
Sealed box (starters only)
Sealed box plus
and one more event

Our new product for GenCon this year doesn't lend itself too well to a sealed event. (If you read this, and don't know, don't ask, we won't answer just yet). So we need another event that works. I think Single Race works on Thursday night because it's popular with our "staff". Whether or not that's the best event to have is open to debate.
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You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

[cliffwiggs]

Chuck, its scary how much you and I think alike. I'm working on three different proposals and you just repeated one of them word for word.

I agree with the noon events. I've almost dropped them, but I hate to leave that time slot empty.

I worry that the word 'intermediate' will scare away too many new players who wont read the description. so I was gonna limit it to one intermediate a day. Plus the 7pm novice is very popular with people who want to do a novice after the hall closes. I hesitate to make the 7pm be a sealed event because it overlaps with the main constructed event.

as for the Sunday noon event, I agree that 'youknow' doesn't work well in a starter format and I'm not sure a play-test of the 2011 product (whatever it will be) would work either.

I'm shooting for populating 3-4 tables at all times.
The 4 days are separated by /'s

This could be covered by 2-3 people easily.

10-12 Novice/Novice/Novice/Novice
12-2 Novice/SealedPlus/Worlds/SealedPlus
2-4 Novice/Novice/Novice/NULL
4-6 Intermediate/Intermediate/Intermediate/NULL
6-8 Single Race/Sealed/Battlefest/NULL
7-9 Novice/Novice/Novice/NULL

A lot of people don't seem to want to play a late night event.
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[chuckpint]

Only two comments:

The times I proposed gave an hour break between the novice/intermediate event times. We may want to think about that. Going straight from 10-8 is a bit tough.

Let's face it, when the exhibit hall closes at 6pm, it's at least 6:30 before everyone from the booth can be ready to play. It would be nice to have some time to get a quick dinner. We may want to start our main evening events at 7.

I agree that a late night event just doesn't work. Especially when the exhibit hall opens at 10. That means getting up at 8:30 at the latest, getting some breakfast, and getting to booth by no later than 9:45. On Thursday, we will have to ready to open at 9am.
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You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

[cliffwiggs]

An alternate that I would love to do is hold 4 novice events (10,1,4,7)
and 3 non-novice events (12,3,6) but I don't think we have enough non-staff players (beyond 2-3) to play in the 12 or 3 event.

If we had two demo-ers dedicated to the event hall, we could do
Novice (10,1,4,7)
Intermediate or sealed (12,3,6)
Staff Favorite (6 or 7)

and each person gets an hour between events.
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[cliffwiggs]

[dproman]

Cliff,

You didn't mention me for booth duty. I volunteer for the exhibit hall, if that's where you need me.

Dave
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