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dproman common Rep Dragon
Joined: 16 Mar 2008 Posts: 326 Location: Vancouver, WA

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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:44 am GMT Post subject: PAX Prime in Seattle! |
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Hello All,
We will be present at PAX Prime in Seattle, Sept. 3rd - 5th at the Washington State Convention Center. http://www.paxsite.com/paxprime/index.php
PAX is gaming festival run by Penny Arcade. 60,000 people attended last year. This year promises to be the same or better.
I'm looking for demo players and volunteers. Come help us make this event a success! Let me know if you can/like to help.
Thanks,
Dave _________________ Rep (director) |
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JonPrud dragonsteed
Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Posts: 92 Location: Redmond, WA

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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:12 pm GMT Post subject: |
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I am interested in some DD at PAX this year. It is still a ways out on the callendar, so I cannot promise much help yet.
What kind of events/tourneys are planned/desired?
As a n00b, I am interested in Sealed and Intermediate formats.
Thanks,
Jon |
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JonPrud dragonsteed
Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Posts: 92 Location: Redmond, WA

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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:37 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Will there be any DD events at PAX, or will there only be a demo table. I'd be interested in attending if there was a competition of some type. _________________ Dobbelsteentje hebberig |
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dproman common Rep Dragon
Joined: 16 Mar 2008 Posts: 326 Location: Vancouver, WA

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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:58 pm GMT Post subject: PAX Prime in Seattle! |
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Since this is our first appearance at PAX, I didn't want to over-do it. I don't what to expect. I'm just trying to gain exposure for us. If this goes well for us, we'll definitely try something for next year! But, please stop by, play a pick-up game with one of us. What better advertisement than to see a real game happening!
Depending on the response, I'm open to putting together a tournament if we need to. Again, I have no idea of what to expect, except good things!
Thank You for your support and see you this weekend!
-Dave _________________ Rep (director) |
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Kane dragonfoal
Joined: 07 Sep 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Seattle, WA

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:16 am GMT Post subject: |
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| Hey guys! Got a demo for myself and a friend and we immediately went over to the Dreaming and bought some starters. They only had 3 left after we purchased, so I'd say you were very successful in getting people interested! Have another friend who played in the old days who could not make it but was VERY excited to have another chance with the game! |
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dproman common Rep Dragon
Joined: 16 Mar 2008 Posts: 326 Location: Vancouver, WA

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:06 pm GMT Post subject: PAX Prime in Seattle! |
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Hello All,
Wow!! PAX, What do I say? Where do I begin?
I will try to describe this event the best I can. First, PAX (Penny Arcade Expo) is a gaming festival. It takes up the entire Washington State Convention Center. 60,000 estimated in attendance. Show tickets (1 day badges) were completely sold-out almost 2 weeks prior. (3-day badges were sold-out 2 months prior!) The 4th floor is the Exhibit Hall(s) (they needed both of them!) It was the area where all of the Electronic gaming took place. People stood in lines for 2+ hours to play a 3 minute demo of upcoming games. When this was done they could come down to the 3rd Floor where there was more retailers and game demos (both Electric and Board). When they were tired of the hustle and bustle of upstairs, they came "back to their roots" down to Table-Top games on the 2nd Floor where we were. Also, remember that we were in a Public access area of the Convention Center (you didn't need a badge to get to us) so, we did have to set up and tear down every day.
Now that I've given you the brief over-view, let me try to break it down, day by day.
Friday: Day One - "The Beginning of Things to Come"
The first few hours of course were very slow, because everyone was checking out the Exhibit Hall and because of our location. It was at this point that I was doubting my decision to commit to being there. By early afternoon, however, this thought was dismissed. We started doing demos and when I say demos, I mean real demos (not Cheese Weasel demos, like GenCon). It was very encouraging. Being the first day, early traveling (3 hour drive) etc., we called it a day around 8:30p.
Saturday: Day Two - "Excitement and Exhaustion"
We were set up by 10am when the Exhibit Hall opened (we could have been set up earlier, but we wanted a good nights rest. It turned out that we really needed that rest. I let Jace and Kaitlin go explore for the first two hours of the day. I did a demo here and there, not too busy. However, after they returned, around 12:30pm, we got slammed! I don't think any of us got a chance for a real break until after at least 10pm.
Excitement: We had a guy come back on Saturday (he did a demo on Friday), that had driven home (2-hour round trip) to get his collection so that he could trade dice. Needless to say, he went home a very happy camper, because we were able to upgrade him (from our personal collections) to 7 complete races! He will now go get his friends and "make them play DD" (those are his words ).
One thing that was going on around us which was an annoyance at first but became a blessing quickly, was MTG!. WotC decided to put a scavenger hunt (Cheese Weasel-type) contest station right across from us. Their participants had to decipher a riddle using the artwork directly behind us (see pics). So, needless to say we had a lot of traffic!
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The organizer for PAX had no idea that this was going to happen, so he was very apologetic and accommodating, offering us a different location, I declined the offer (not my best decision).
In spite of all of this distracting activity, we had a great response to our demos. So great in fact that they had to kick us out at 2am! (when the Convention Center closed). Jace, Kaitlin and some of our new converts were playing multi-player games where ever they could find room. (pics)
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The other thing to note is that we also had a retailer (who was stocking DD) located on the same floor, and since we were all Public Access, he was open until 2am (like the rest of the Convention Center)! Yes, he sold out of 2-player starters!
Exhaustion: We got to bed around 3am (PST), a very long but rewarding day!
Sunday: Day Three - "Disappointment and Pay-Off"
Disappointment: Because of our long day/night, we arrived shortly after 10am, only to discover that our table space had been taken by another demoing group. (According to our PAX agreement, we were guaranteed a table, they didn't say it would be the same table.) So, I promptly contacted my PAX rep (whom I had been working with for months), who placed at a table directly across from the Game Library.
Pay-Off: This turned out to be prime real estate! We should have been here from the beginning! They offered it to us on Friday but I didn't know what PAX was going to be like. (Bad decision on my part, sorry ) But, now at least, we had two days of demoing to compare to what we did on Sunday. Sunday, what a day! Our location, being across from the game library (which was attached to one of our retailers "Games & Gizmos") was also, backed up against an escalator. So, people could see us on their way to the upper floors. We had great visibility! We did many demos with people who had heard about us at the show (probably from our retailers). They literally "hunted" us down to find us and do a demo! This was very encouraging! (pic)
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I even did a demo for this guy who wanted to see the rules improvements made by SFR Inc. He thought that the game and rules were broken badly with the Firewalkers, but he saw that they got worse with the Swamp Stalkers (I'm referring to the TSR rules). Being the idiot that I am, I decided to point out that the Firewalkers (originally) were weak, etc. only to later discover that I was talking to Steve Miller! (The man assigned to develop the Firewalkers.) It was embarassing and funny, but we both got a good laugh out of it. I think he liked the changes to the rules.
So, all-in-all, I think this was a very successful weekend to say least! We will have a problem next year, however, that is if we don't show up! We were approached by both PAX officials and Games & Gizmos reps to encourage us to not only come back next year, but to try and run a tournament and/or events!
I may not have a great grasp of the business side of things at SFR Inc. but I think we should really ask ourselves a couple of questions:
(1) How fast/big do we want to grow?
(2) Are we ready to commit to the possibility of a major resurgence and tremendous growth?
I feel that PAX is where we need to be and that it's the "springboard" that could launch us back into the mainstream. (Just my opinion, but what do I know .)
Thank You to all who supported us (SFR Inc., PAX, Games & Gizmos, The Dreaming, and all of our new players and contacts!), We couldn't have done it without you!!
Until next time,
Roll On!
-The Northwest Reps (Dave, Jace, and Kaitlin) _________________ Rep (director) |
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Jace Thomas common
Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 114 Location: Centralia, WA

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:09 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Kane wrote: | | Hey guys! Got a demo for myself and a friend and we immediately went over to the Dreaming and bought some starters. They only had 3 left after we purchased, so I'd say you were very successful in getting people interested! Have another friend who played in the old days who could not make it but was VERY excited to have another chance with the game! | Great to hear that, Kane! I too think that we did great getting people interested, I mean the flow of people coming to our demo table and leaving to go pick up starters just didn't stop!
So have you cracked open your starter(s) and played any games with your friends back home yet? Let the conquest begin! _________________ Alea iacta est. |
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Jace Thomas common
Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 114 Location: Centralia, WA

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:42 pm GMT Post subject: |
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It was so absolutely awesome running into Steve Miller, and actually being able to talk to someone who designed a race! He told us that the reason the Firewalkers are the way they are, is that back when there was only the first 5 races, none of them were very damage-output oriented. The elves had good range and maneuvers, the goblins had great maneuvers, the dwarves had saves, and the amazons had a little bit of saves, maneuvers, and missile potential. When designing a new expansion race to the game, they wanted to make the Firewalkers very capable in damage at the cost of defense, to set them apart from the other races. However, the deadline was too strict and not enough playtesting was done, and so they ended up with too little saves and not enough damage potential.
Very interesting to me, being a huge fan of Dragon Dice! His explanation immediately makes me think of the Scalder race, who like the Firewalkers are firey, have a HUGE potential for damage, and don't save worth a darn They also have something in common with the Lava Elves, with their feast-or-famine type rolls. Perhaps when they were designing the Scalder race they hearkened back to the Firewalker's development, and tried to make a companion race..?
Anyways, it was so cool meeting Steve Miller that Dave had me run down to Games & Gizmos and pick him up a Firewalkers kicker, so that he could have Steve sign the little leaflet that was included! How cool! _________________ Alea iacta est. |
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Kane dragonfoal
Joined: 07 Sep 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Seattle, WA

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:19 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| I am not usually much of a tournament player, but that might just change if DD is involved. I think this may be one of the few games that really is GOOD for tournament play. Have yet to crack open my new dice. Want to read the full rules tome and be sure I have a solid handle before I show my other friends. |
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Kane dragonfoal
Joined: 07 Sep 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Seattle, WA

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:20 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Hey! That is my friends and I!
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Kane dragonfoal
Joined: 07 Sep 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Seattle, WA

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:21 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Oops, wrong one. Pic 6 is me.  |
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Jace Thomas common
Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 114 Location: Centralia, WA

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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:51 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Kane wrote: | | I am not usually much of a tournament player, but that might just change if DD is involved. I think this may be one of the few games that really is GOOD for tournament play. Have yet to crack open my new dice. Want to read the full rules tome and be sure I have a solid handle before I show my other friends. | I feel ya there, Kane, I've always felt really uncomfortable in a tournament environment. There's too much pressure, and people start playing the game to win and not to have fun, which isn't my bag. I've only been in one DD tournament, the Sealed Starter at GenCon, but I had the time of my life! The only problem I had with the tournament is that it was only four rounds, I really wanted to play everyone  _________________ Alea iacta est. |
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DialFforFunky rare
Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 1992 Location: Groningen

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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:26 am GMT Post subject: |
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With the current state of DD, I think hardly anyone will be playing a tounament for the win only. If the community here is representative for most of the players, I think a tournament is mainly an excuse to play a lot of games and spend some more time tinkering about with an army.
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dproman common Rep Dragon
Joined: 16 Mar 2008 Posts: 326 Location: Vancouver, WA

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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:52 am GMT Post subject: PAX Prime in Seattle! |
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And now, back to the Show! or back to our Sponsors! or is it both!
PAX was incredible! One reason for this was our 2 retailers. They were very supportive. The first one: The Dreaming located in Seattle, is a comic book/ game store. We met them back in March when we attended/demoed DD at Emerald City Comic Con. The Dreaming had two booths, one in the Exhibit Hall (4th floor) and one in the Annex (3rd floor). We are already discussing plans for doing demos in the store later this month! The second one: Games & Gizmos, is located (I believe) in the Redmond area. They had two booths as well. One in the Annex (3rd floor) and the other very close to us in Table Top gaming (2nd floor). Since they were on the same floor, we took turns checking in on each other, to see how things were going. They had a volunteer force that I wish we could tap into! Excellent job guys! Due to a lack of communication (or forethought), our retailers didn't know where we located for most of Friday (because I didn't think to tell them ). But once they figured out where we were, then things started flowing smoothly. We had a good system. We'd tell people where to buy DD (after the demo), they'd tell the interested folks where to demo. It worked out pretty good. So, good in fact, that the owner of G&G and the PAX official (Christian) came to the table to discuss our plans for next year!
We also had several suggestions of other retailers that we should make contact with! (I will be following up on those.)
Well, that's it for this installment of the PAX (Seattle) update. I'm sure I'll remember more details in the days ahead. As I do, I'll try to post!
Till then, What a great Show! Thank You Seattle! (See ya next year! )
-Dave _________________ Rep (director) |
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Kane dragonfoal
Joined: 07 Sep 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Seattle, WA

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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:47 am GMT Post subject: |
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| I would definitely get in touch with Gamma Ray Games also in Seattle. They are a small shop with very little play space, so DD would work perfectly up there. |
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PeasantDave Newbie
Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Posts: 1 Location: New Jersey

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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:02 pm GMT Post subject: |
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It was very exciting to see you guys at PAX! I was one of the people who had played several years ago and still had a TSR DD dice bag. I picked up a new starter and plan on getting the old dice out of storage to teach my friends how to play.
Did you know there is a PAX East in Boston in March? |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:11 am GMT Post subject: |
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| ArmyofNone wrote: | just wondering where I should buy from? Is there a preferred place? Thanks again!  | SFR supports the local game stores, so we always tell people to go their first. If they don't carry the product, ask them too. We are available to them in distribution.
SFR also supports our players and if your local store won't carry the product, then you can purchase directly from our site.
http://www.sfr-inc.com/cart
Cliff _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:13 am GMT Post subject: |
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| PeasantDave wrote: |
Did you know there is a PAX East in Boston in March? |
I did, March 11-13th right? We are trying to see whom we have in the area that might be able to support demo's at that con. If you know of anyone or a local game store please put us in touch with them! _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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