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mocachild · Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:33 am GMT Post subject:

after doing some research on what types of spyware may be installed by using AIM, the only two i found were "Wild Tangent" and "Viewpoint"

both of these are common spyware infections and any spyware removal program will take care of these quickly.

again, minor and very common spyware and easily taken care of.

if you don't have a spyware removal program then here are two of the most popular:

spybot search and destroy (which you can find by searching in google; just find the link that says "the home of Spybot S & D"

and Ad-aware se personal (which you can find by going to "www.lavasoftusa.com" and finding the link on the left side of the page.

AIM isn't the only free video chat program, but it is compatible with the greatest amount of computer users since it is compatible with i-chat for any of you mac users out there.

i haven't tried the msn video conferencing program but i might to see how well it works and let you guys/gals know about it.

slcobbs · Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:03 am GMT Post subject:

I installed AIM a couple weeks ago and another spyware that is installed and also easily uninstalled is weather bug.

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Deeghter · rare Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 2553 Location: Lost

I don't worry about spy ware, that can be taken care of real quickly with the above mentioned programs (Highly recommended! They're great!).
But there's one point I spent a while to think about concerning practical use of the web cam in the game:

How could you manage to serve the need for having a complete overview of the battlefield and of your rolls?? Wanna drag around the cam all the time, zoom in and out (or move it in and out) to show rolled icons etc.??? If you have mounted the cam overhead the table, the images will be too small I'm afraid! Just showing the playing partner won't help the game either! In that case one could also play a game by using the forum, e-mails, CW-Campaign or similar!
Another point is, that both players would also need to have their opponent's dice to re-arrange the battlefield after each march, action, maneuver! (like chess players who follow the opponent's turn by moving "his" figures on their board, too).

(probably a dumb question, but I've never video-conferenced before!)
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just told me he hasn't either! Confused

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deputyfife · common Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 322 Location: Missouri

I have both spybot and ad-aware, and one or two others, also. It isn't that I'm so much worried about the spyware itself, just wondering if it is worth the hassle (in the case indicated, that the program runs fine after removing any spyware, it isn't much hassle; but I was worried that I might remove the spyware and find that AIM doesn't work well afterwards.)

As to Dieter's point, I had thought of that myself. The only advantage to the camera is that you can have video and sound interaction; I'm not worried about trusting people. If someone is going to cheat, if that is the way they enjoy the game, so be it. I could lose to a cheater in an online game and so what; I still would get the fun of playing, and of trying strategies out and seeing what does/doesn't work. And I'm sure that cheaters/liars eventually would be so lucky that people would figure out what is going on.

Considering that everyone on here could participate in a CW Campaign-style chat room game, it might be better to start with something like that first. Maybe we could figure out a time once a month when everyone is most likely to be free, and get a game going that way? If successful, we could go up to 2 times a month, etc......and I know that Majiken and Ddicerc have invited anyone interested to join them playing online.
If after a couple months, everyone finds that the games would be greatly enhanced by video, whoever's willing could move on to that.
If someone else wants to grab the reins with this, please do. I'm not that type of person, unless I *have* to be. But I will throw in that although this would probably run counter to everyone else, I would have a tougher time playing online on Saturdays and Sundays than other days of the week. Unless we were talking about late Saturday nights, and I'm sure most of you actually have a social life. Wink

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mocachild · Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:30 am GMT Post subject:

you'll have to forgive my ignorance, but how does a chat style game work. it seems like you'd have even more issues than working video style. i obviously don't know how it plays if that sounds easier to you guys.

i tried a video game with my nephew. it's pretty darn easy. the only thing both players need to duplicate (as far as the dice are concerned) are the three terrain that are being used. web cams are tiny and light and are easily moved. i would ask my nephew to "zoom" out to see the fields and then tell him to "zoom" in on a specific terrain, if you're playing with 24 point armies its pretty easy to remember what dice are on there and if you need some more details just "zoom" in. not as much hassle as it sounds, but again it's probably not for everyone. we had a blast though.

i'm a patient player and if i need to know what dice are where i just asked my nephew and he'd either show me or tell me. you really don't need to have the other players dice. if your brain needs to be able to see everything at once and you don't want to have to move a cam (which doesn't phase me in the least) then you may not enjoy, but i didn't find it at all difficult, besides i was just playing to play and didn't care if i made a mistake or forgot that "your monster was still there" when i meleed my nephew and got slaughtered. i should have checked one more time. LOL. it felt a little more like i was really a commander of an army and i was sitting on a hill directing my forces. i'd just send out a scout and he'd tell me who was where and i'd make a move. (guess you guys can tell that i'm easy to please) Wink

it really works better than you might think (though nothing beats playing with someone in the same room, i think it ranks a pretty close second, though i've yet to give the whole chat thing a try)

i'd be willing to try both video and the chat thing, but i don't know anything about the latter one. so someone give me some info as i'd play. Razz

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Majiken · Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:22 pm GMT Post subject:

chuckpint · Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:59 pm GMT Post subject:

Don't bother with downloading AIM. Get Gaim instead. It's open source, and works with AIM (AOL), Yahoo, and MSN. No adware, spyware, just good software. You can get it at: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
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Deeghter · rare Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 2553 Location: Lost

Deeghter · rare Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 2553 Location: Lost

Just got my butt sliced and served for late night dinner in a chatroom game with Joe! His Frosties against my Goblins! Sorry to tell you but Chguck is an orphan now! His tribe's been wiped off the swamps of Esfah!
And a poor little Trog named Deeghter was even swallowed by a blue Wyrm!

Well, it was a really BIG blue wyrm! Tremendous Big! I mean, it was HUGE !! Shocked

But the game was fun in spite of my failure in kicking the bats' butts!

I'm looking forward to the next one some time! Until then I have to study, study, study the new rules!!!! Embarassed

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Majiken · Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 8:13 pm GMT Post subject:

ddicerc · Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 8:16 pm GMT Post subject:

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mocachild · Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:32 am GMT Post subject:

if you guys wouldn't mind, i'd like to try it out sometime too. i'll get my butt kicked, but it will be fun to play a little at least. i need to play more with the new rules too.

Majiken · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:42 am GMT Post subject:

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mocachild · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:12 pm GMT Post subject:

thanks guys! i'll be waiting for the email. don't have a clue how this works, but i'm a fast learner Very Happy

in the meantime, happy dicing!