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DEEPBLUEB2 monster Stockholder
Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 7894 Location: Des Plaines, IL

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:10 pm GMT Post subject: |
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NOPE...
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:53 am GMT Post subject: |
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Chuck, I'm fairly sure I got this right, but in a starter its:
25% ivory wyrm
25% ivory drake
5% of each of the other 10, right? _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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Denimwizard common
Joined: 01 Jan 2011 Posts: 356 Location: Maryland

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:42 am GMT Post subject: |
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| cliffwiggs wrote: | Chuck, I'm fairly sure I got this right, but in a starter its:
25% ivory wyrm
25% ivory drake
5% of each of the other 10, right? |
If this is true, this explains why, of all the starters i have gotten not one has had a black dragon in it either wyrm on drake. _________________ 750 Dragon Dice and Counting! |
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chuckpint White Dragon SFR President Site Admin
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 9187 Location: Evanston, IL

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:50 am GMT Post subject: |
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Depends. What it was supposed to be was be was a 19% chance of any color of an elemental dragon, and a 9% chance of an ivory (equal chance between drake and wyrm). Note 1% rounding error. That is the distribution of the Undead/Feral. What happened in the other starters is 50% chance of an ivory, and 10% chance of any color of an elemental dragon (equal chance between drake and wyrm). So to be really true to the actual starters, you have to make the distinction.
Exact calculations:
Undead/Feral: Ivory: 1/11, Black, Blue, Gold, Green, Red: 2/11
Other starters: Ivory: 5/10, Black, Blue, Gold, Green, Red: 1/10 _________________ You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count). |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:00 am GMT Post subject: |
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| chuckpint wrote: |
Exact calculations:
Undead/Feral: Ivory: 1/11, Black, Blue, Gold, Green, Red: 2/11
Other starters: Ivory: 5/10, Black, Blue, Gold, Green, Red: 1/10 |
I'm nothing if not anal-ly exact...
So the other starters were already correct and the UD/FE starter now has a separate distribution for dragons from the others. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:33 am GMT Post subject: |
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| Jim Rayborn wrote: | It must be working right...I never did get an Unseelie.  | Took me 10 clicks today to pull one. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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chuckpint White Dragon SFR President Site Admin
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 9187 Location: Evanston, IL

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:59 am GMT Post subject: |
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Must be working, after 12 pulls on Swamp Stalkers, Frostwings, Scalders, and Treefolk:
No Ormyrr
No Frost Ogre or Magi
1 Unseelie, no Inferno
3 Unicorns _________________ You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count). |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:02 am GMT Post subject: |
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I pulled a dwarf kicker where all the commons were footmen. That looked a little strange, but when pulling 4 dice from a pool of 5; there are bound to be a lot of duplicates. this is just the outside range. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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Dolus rare
Joined: 07 Sep 2011 Posts: 1307 Location: San Diego, CA

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:06 am GMT Post subject: |
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| cliffwiggs wrote: | | I pulled a dwarf kicker where all the commons were footmen. That looked a little strange, but when pulling 4 dice from a pool of 5; there are bound to be a lot of duplicates. this is just the outside range. |
But not unusual. For the longest time, I had something like 9 light melee and 5 missile dwarf commons, and none of the others. I now have 2 melee and 2 cavalry because I traded for somebody's small DD collection, but I still don't have any magic dwarves.
In my first undead starter, I got 3 light melee uncommons. _________________ Collection |
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Matthias Maccabeus rare
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 1551 Location: Nebraska

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:15 am GMT Post subject: |
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Took me 37 times to get an unseelie
Took me 102 times to get a unicorn (alas it seems like I'll never own the unicorn / my nemesis dice!) _________________ HeroScape - Tree Town Open Champion (2008, 2016), Nebraska Skirmish Champion (2008, 2010) GenCon LightWeight Champion (2009), GenCon General Wars (Aquilla Champion 2009) GenCon Unique Hero Champion (2009, 2010)
Dragon Dice - Gen Con Worlds Champion 2011, 2012, 2016, 2017 O Town 2013 Overall Winner |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:23 am GMT Post subject: |
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| Matthias Maccabeus wrote: | | Took me 102 times to get a unicorn (alas it seems like I'll never own the unicorn / my nemesis dice!) | Wow, that's a lot. The ajax action uses a current timestamp to prevent the client browser from caching the result. If you are clicking too fast then it may be updating the screen with a cached result and not actually traveling to the server to generate a new pack. or maybe you and DDicer can battle for the unluckiest person when it comes to unicorns. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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DScottOBrien common Stockholder
Joined: 15 Sep 2006 Posts: 367 Location: pennsylvania

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:41 am GMT Post subject: |
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| cliffwiggs wrote: | | Matthias Maccabeus wrote: | | Took me 102 times to get a unicorn (alas it seems like I'll never own the unicorn / my nemesis dice!) | Wow, that's a lot. The ajax action uses a current timestamp to prevent the client browser from caching the result. If you are clicking too fast then it may be updating the screen with a cached result and not actually traveling to the server to generate a new pack. or maybe you and DDicer can battle for the unluckiest person when it comes to unicorns. |
took me 8 pulls to get a unicorn
20 pulls to get a frost ogre _________________ D Scott O'Brien
Dice Junkie
Anal-retentive rules scrutinizer |
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chuckpint White Dragon SFR President Site Admin
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 9187 Location: Evanston, IL

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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:46 am GMT Post subject: |
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Just opened a case of Treefolk (real product not simulated). Here's one thing that Cliff's on-line thing won't do: One box had 2 rares and only 1 uncommon.
Monsters were a bit off: 5 Satyrs, 2 Redwoods, 2 Strange Vines, 0 Darktrees, 3 Unicorns.
5 of the 13 rares were Oak Lords, only one Noble Willow. _________________ You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count). |
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Denimwizard common
Joined: 01 Jan 2011 Posts: 356 Location: Maryland

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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:57 am GMT Post subject: |
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Wow from all the tree folk kickers i got i have only 1 oaklord and 4 noble willows _________________ 750 Dragon Dice and Counting! |
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Raven's Hollow Games dragonsteed Retailer
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 55 Location: Peralta, NM

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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:29 pm GMT Post subject: |
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It took me 4 cases (real product) of Firewalkers before I got my first Pheonix. Can't say I was amused but then I guess that is how a collectible game is supposed to work. _________________ Raven's Hollow |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:46 pm GMT Post subject: |
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I didn't need to do this, but someone mentioned it and it bugged me all day.
I added the new format of starter to the product simulator so you can see what types of things you might get from it...
wow this was a lot of mages...
Coastland Standing Stone
Flatland City
Highland City
Swampland City
Phoenix
Fireshadow
Ashbringer
Firestormer
Nightsbane
Firemaster
Firemaster
Firemaster
Shadowchaser
Guardian
Sunburst
Sunburst
Firestarter
Firestarter
Firestarter
Firestarter
Death Wyrm
Death Wyrm
Water Drake
Ivory Wyrm
Unicorn
Redwood
Oak Lord
Eldar Dryad
Oak
Oak
Oak
Willow
Nymph
Oakling
Willowing
Hamadryad
Hamadryad
Hamadryad
Hamadryad
Pineling _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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