SFR, Inc.

TheLazyhase · common Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 208

The concept is to try to see whether my proposed change to monster make them overpowered or not. The thread with the idea : http://www.sfr-inc.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4047

It cannot show by itself that the change is good, but it may show that it's bad.

My army :

Horde 18 (3 mage)
1x Salamander
1x Red Blade Golem
1x Troll
1x Infiltrator
1x Scorpion Knight
1x Spider Rider

Campaign 1
1x Shadowchaser

Home 17 (14 mage)
4x Ashbringer
1x Sunflare
1x Sunburst
1x Scorpion Knight
~~1x Spider Rider~~ (error in counting)

Dragon :
2x Red / Blue Wyrm

Dragonkin (12)
1x Fire Dragonsteed
2x Fire Dragonmount
5x Fire Dragonfoal

1x Highland City
1x Highland Castle
2x Swampland Woods
1x Coastland Woods
1x Flatland Woods

The blade golem have be taken instead of the Frost Wolf because they serve similar purpose, but the blade golem can't be easily killed with spell or SAI. No Fireshadow because they suck at magic compared to dedicated mage, and I do need magic ; I am more interested to see how the salamander perform than the slight buff to fireshadow.

loligarchy · Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:39 pm GMT Post subject:

I'll be running a mostly undead army with goblin support

Home Army (18)
2 Lich
4 Apparition
1 Heucuva
2 Death Mage

Campaign Army (1)
1 Wraith

Horde Army (17)
2 Leopard Rider
1 Ghost
1 Revenant
2 Wraith
1 Gold Medallion

Home terrain: Swampland Standing Stones
Frontier terrain: Swampland Castle

Summoning Pool
2 Blue/Black Hybrid Wyrm
1 Coastland Village
1 Flatland Village
1 Highland Village
1 Swampland Village
1 Black Dragonkin Champion
1 Black Dragonspy
1 Black Dragonsentry
2 Black Dragonfoal
1 Gold Dragonfoal

I'm also just going to throw my horde roll out for convenience sake

Ghost: 3 Melee
Gold Medallion: TSR Logo
Leopard Rider: 3 Missile
Leopard Rider: 3 ID
Revenant: 2 Melee
Wraith: 1 Melee
Wraith: 1 Save
That was uninspired but not terribly surprising, 3 it is.

Do you want to run the board or shall I?

TheLazyhase · common Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 208

... And of course, after recounting, I see I was off by one health.

The spider rider on the home is an error and should be removed.

The blade golem is red (I forgot to mention it).

Horde roll :
Infiltrator: 1 Melee
Red Blade Golem: 4 ID
Salamander: 4 Melee
Scorpion Knight: 3 Maneuver
Spider Rider: 1 ID
Troll: 4 Melee

8 maneuver, I win.

I take my frontier, the Highland Castle.

If you can run the board it will help ; I have troubles making DDInventory work.

Edit : roll for my home is 2 - magic
For the frontier, it's 5 - melee.

loligarchy · Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:16 pm GMT Post subject:

I also rolled a 5 on my home

Turn Sequence: Loli, Lazy

Turn 1 Loli

	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	*****************
	Lazy BUA		Lazy DUA		Lazy Reserve Army	Lazy Summoning Pool
*
	Lazy		Lazy		Lazy Home Army
	Loli's Home		Frontier		Lazy's Home
	Loli Home Army		Loli		Loli
*
	Loli Reserve Army		Loli Summoning Pool		Loli DUA	Loli BUA

Ok Then My turn, this is not a terribly good setup for me :/
First March
Attempt to Manuever at your home

Ghost: 3 ID
Gold Medallion: Wayfare
Leopard Rider: 3 Save
Leopard Rider: 3 ID
Revenant: 3 Melee
Wraith: 1 ID
Wraith: 2 Maneuver

Wow, ok so 13
if I win I'll bring in my highland village

Highland Village: Double Maneuvers

Not helpful.

In either case I will cast magic with them

Ghost: 4 Maneuver
Gold Medallion: 4 Sortie
Leopard Rider: 3 Missile
Leopard Rider: 3 Missile
Revenant: 2 Melee
Wraith: 2 Maneuver
Wraith: 1 Melee

Also not helpful.

Second March

Since I didn't get any really relevant results with my first march, I'll also start my second march.

Manuever
Apparition: 1 Save
Apparition: 1 Save
Apparition: 1 Save
Apparition: 1 ID
Death Mage: 3 Maneuver
Death Mage: 3 Maneuver
Heucava: 2 ID
Lich: 3 ID
Lich: 3 ID

15 results

if I win that one I'll manuever it down to 4

Let me know the results of your two counter manuevers

TheLazyhase · common Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 208

Maneuver at my home :
Ashbringer: 3 ID
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 3 ID
Ashbringer: 3 Cantrip
Scorpion Knight: 1 Melee
Sunburst: 1 Magic
Sunflare: 2 Magic

6 maneuver, so you have your highland village.

Maneuver at your home :
Infiltrator: 4 Counter
Red Blade Golem: 4 ID
Salamander: 4 Melee
Scorpion Knight: 2 Save
Spider Rider: 2 Maneuver
Troll: Regenerate
6 maneuver. Maneuvered to 4, missile, which is good news for you Smile

. (then again, you were not running 15 results, but 21, since it's swampland)

You can finish your turn, since I may change plans depending on what go to reserve.

loligarchy · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:53 am GMT Post subject:

Oh wow that's right, its easy to forget about racials with multiple race armies

Anyways I will conduct a missile action against your shadowchaser at the frontier

Apparition: 1 Melee
Apparition: 2 Magic
Apparition: 1 ID
Apparition: 1 Magic
Death Mage: 2 Save
Death Mage: 4 Magic
Heucava: 2 Melee
Lich: 3 Save
Lich: 3 Melee
No cantrip, 1 ID so he does have to save against the damage.

Either way I will reserve all of my home forces and my wraith at the frontier and end my turn.

Turn Sequence: Lazy, Loli

Turn 1 Lazy

	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	*****************
	Lazy BUA		Lazy DUA		Lazy Reserve Army	Lazy Summoning Pool
*
	Lazy		Lazy		Lazy Home Army
	Loli's Home		Frontier		Lazy's Home
	Loli Home Army		Loli		Loli (x2 Man)
*
	Loli Reserve Army		Loli Summoning Pool		Loli DUA	Loli BUA

TheLazyhase · common Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 208

Shadowchaser: 1 Missile

He's dead.

Maneuver at my home :

Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 4 Maneuver
Ashbringer: 3 Cantrip
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Scorpion Knight: 2 ID
Sunburst: 2 Maneuver
Sunflare: 3 Magic

8 maneuver. To 1 if it somehow suceed.

Magic in both case.

Ashbringer: 3 Cantrip
Ashbringer: 4 Maneuver
Ashbringer: 4 Maneuver
Ashbringer: 3 ID
Scorpion Knight: 2 Save
Sunburst: 1 Magic
Sunflare: 2 Magic
6 red/blue magic, plus either 3 blue magic or 6 red magic.
12 red
Spark of life on the Shadowchaser.
1 dragonfoal summoned.
2 flashfire on my home army.

Second march at my other army.
Unopposed march to 5.

No melee action, let's say they train.

The troll and the Infiltrator go to reserve.

loligarchy · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:03 am GMT Post subject:

Counter Manuever
Ghost: 4 Maneuver
Gold Medallion: TSR Logo
Leopard Rider: 4 Melee
Leopard Rider: 3 Rend
Revenant: 2 ID
Wraith: 1 Maneuver
Wraith: 1 Melee

10 so it stays at 2

Turn Sequence: Lazy, Loli

Turn 2 Loli

	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	*****************
	Lazy BUA		Lazy DUA		Lazy Reserve Army	Lazy Summoning Pool
*
	Lazy		Lazy		Lazy Home Army (Flashfire x2)
	Loli's Home		Frontier		Lazy's Home
	Loli Home Army		Loli		Loli (x2 Manuever)
*
	Loli Reserve Army		Loli Summoning Pool		Loli DUA	Loli BUA

First March
Reserve Magic
Apparition: 1 ID
Apparition: 2 Magic
Apparition: 1 Melee
Apparition: 1 Magic
Death Mage: 3 ID
Death Mage: 3 ID
Heucava: 2 Save
Lich: 3 Melee
Lich: 3 Save
Wraith: 1 Melee

10 results
Use my 4 results from undead to cast Restless Dead on my Horde Army
my death mages will cast stoneskin on my Horde and path my revenant to the frontier

Second March
Highland Village: Double Saves
Attempt Manuever with my Horde Army
Ghost: 3 Vanish
Gold Medallion: 4 Sortie
Leopard Rider: 3 Rend
Leopard Rider: 3 Missile
Wraith: 1 Melee
Wraith: 2 Maneuver
5+4 = 9

if I win up to 3

Attempt Magic
Ghost: 3 ID
Gold Medallion: 4 Flurry
Leopard Rider: 4 Melee
Leopard Rider: 3 Rend
Wraith: 1 Melee
Wraith: 2 Maneuver

Cast Palsy on your home army

Move my wraith from reserves to the Frontier. Both Death Mages move to My Horde

Turn Sequence: Lazy, Loli

Turn 2 Lazy

	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	*****************
	Lazy BUA		Lazy DUA		Lazy Reserve Army	Lazy Summoning Pool
*
	Lazy		Lazy		Lazy Home Army (Palsy)
	Loli's Home		Frontier		Lazy's Home (May be 3)
	Loli Home Army		Loli		Loli (+1 Save x2 Save +4 Manuever)
*
	Loli Reserve Army		Loli Summoning Pool		Loli DUA	Loli BUA

TheLazyhase · common Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 208

Counter maneuver :
Ashbringer: 4 Maneuver
Ashbringer: 4 Maneuver
Ashbringer: 4 Maneuver
Ashbringer: 4 Maneuver
Red Dragonfoal: 1 Melee
Scorpion Knight: 2 Save
Shadowchaser: 1 Maneuver
Sunburst: 1 Magic
Sunflare: 3 Maneuver

What. 20 maneuver. It stay at two.

My turn :
Flashfire expire (I have discovered today that it didn't work on maneuver. I am bad at reading small prints)

First march
Your home, unopposed to 6. No other action.

Second march
My home, Maneuver to 1 :

Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 3 Cantrip
Ashbringer: 3 Cantrip
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Red Dragonfoal: 1 Maneuver
Scorpion Knight: 4 Melee
Shadowchaser: 1 ID
Sunburst: 1 ID
Sunflare: 3 Maneuver

6 maneuver, -1 palsy so 5 and you have +4. It's not statistically impossible that you do 0 maneuver :p

Magic :
Ashbringer: 3 Cantrip
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
~~Red Dragonfoal: 1 ID~~
Scorpion Knight: 2 Maneuver
Shadowchaser: 1 Maneuver
Sunburst: 1 ID
Sunflare: 3 Magic
15 magic and one ID from the firewalker, and -1 from Palsy, so 16 red
A red dragon to the frontier, 1 dragonfoal and 1 dragonmount to my home army.

The two unit in my reserve stay where they are.

The dragon roll Breath. I choose the red breath.

loligarchy · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:28 pm GMT Post subject:

Counter
Ghost: 3 Melee
Gold Medallion: TSR Logo
Leopard Rider: 3 ID
Leopard Rider: 3 Rend
Wraith: 1 Melee
6+4 = 10
So once again it stays at 2

As I have no initial effects other than spell expiration, I'll include the Dragon attack in the start of turn update to the board.

Turn Sequence: Lazy, Loli

Turn 3 Loli

	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	*****************
	Lazy BUA		Lazy DUA		Lazy Reserve Army	Lazy Summoning Pool
*
	Lazy		Lazy		Lazy Home Army
	Loli's Home		Frontier		Lazy's Home
	Loli Home Army		Loli		Loli (x2 Save)
*
	Loli Reserve Army		Loli Summoning Pool		Loli DUA	Loli BUA

Dragon Attack
My revenant and wraith automatically die, but get to attempt to resist burial
Revenant: 3 Save
Wraith: 2 Maneuver

Wraith buried

First March
Highland Village: Revolt
Well that's no good

Attempt Manuever
Death Mage: 3 ID
Death Mage: 3 Magic
Ghost: 3 Vanish
Gold Medallion: 4 Sortie
Leopard Rider: 3 Rend
Leopard Rider: 4 Melee
Wraith: 1 Maneuver
3 Rend + 4/2 = 5 Maneuver
Up to 3 if I somehow succeed

Gotta wait to see the result of the counter manuever before continuing

TheLazyhase · common Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 208

I am not at home, so I can't yet do the counter maneuver, but I believe the Wraith have another shot at not being buried : the red breath let you save to not be buried, and once you fail this first roll, you have another one because of the undead racial.

TheLazyhase · common Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 208

Counter maneuver :

Ashbringer: 4 Maneuver
Ashbringer: 3 ID
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 3 Cantrip
Red Dragonfoal: Belly
Red Dragonfoal: 1 Maneuver
Red Dragonmount: 2 Melee
Scorpion Knight: 1 Melee
Shadowchaser: 1 Maneuver
Sunburst: 1 Magic
Sunflare: 2 ID

10 results

loligarchy · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:13 pm GMT Post subject:

Ok Wraith's second chance to avoid burial
Wraith: 1 ID
so I guess he is in the DUA

Since it stays at 2, I will do a magic action

Death Mage: 4 Cantrip
Death Mage: 4 Magic
Ghost: 3 Melee
Gold Medallion: TSR Logo
Leopard Rider: 3 Missile
Leopard Rider: 3 Rend
Wraith: 1 Melee
Wraith: 1 Melee

Ok I rolled the TSR and its a special SAI so I then get to rez my units and roll them as part of the action

Revenant: 2 Melee
Wraith: 1 Save
Not that they're helpful at all.

so 8 Magic

I drop one of my blue/black wyrms on my home

Second March
Reserve Magic
Apparition: 1 Melee
Apparition: 1 Melee
Apparition: 1 Save
Apparition: 1 ID
Heucava: 2 ID
Lich: 4 Cantrip
Lich: 3 ID

10 Magic
2 Restless Dead on my Horde Army

Reserves
Place my undead mages from reserves on your home
Pull one wraith, my two leopard riders, my revenant and my gold medallion back to reserves

Turn Sequence: Lazyhaze, Loligarchy

Turn 3 Lazy

	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	*****************
	Lazyhaze BUA		Lazyhaze DUA		Lazyhaze Reserve Army	Lazyhaze Summoning Pool
*
	Lazyhaze		Lazyhaze		Lazyhaze Home Army
	Loligarchy's Home (Standing Stones)		Frontier (Castle)		Lazyhaze's Home (City)
	Loligarchy Home Army		Loligarchy		Loligarchy (x2 Restless Dead)
*
	Loligarchy Reserve Army		Loligarchy Summoning Pool		Loligarchy DUA	Loligarchy BUA

Dragon Attack:
Blue/Black Hybrid Wyrm: Jaws
12 Damage Incoming

loligarchy · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:13 pm GMT Post subject:

Note: I had to redo the board as I'm using my work laptop so let me know if there are any missing units or something

TheLazyhase · common Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 208

There is two dragonfoal at my home : one was invoked at my first magic action, and another one at my second magic action, along with the dragonsteed.

Dragon attack :
Red Blade Golem: 5 Melee
Salamander: 5 Melee
Scorpion Knight: 4 Melee
Spider Rider: 1 Melee

Everything die, which is especially painful for the golem. I suppose I shouldn't have underestimated the chance to get a jaw.

First march, magic at reserve :

Infiltrator: 3 ID
Troll: 4 Smite

Flashfire on my home army.

Second march, my home army :

Maneuver :
Ashbringer: 4 Maneuver
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Red Dragonfoal: 1 Maneuver
Red Dragonfoal: 1 Maneuver
Red Dragonmount: 2 ID
Scorpion Knight: 2 Save
Shadowchaser: 1 Maneuver
Sunburst: 2 Maneuver
Sunflare: 2 Magic
11 maneuver. No harm in trying anyway.

Go to 1 if successful.

Magic at my home :
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 3 Cantrip
Ashbringer: 4 Maneuver
Scorpion Knight: 3 Maneuver
Shadowchaser: 2 Melee
Sunburst: 1 Magic
Sunflare: 2 Magic

I use the flashfire reroll on the 4-maneuver ashbringer :
Ashbringer: 4 Maneuver
Stubborn. I see.

12 magic, no doubling. The salamander spring to life at my home.

Reserve : my reserves go to my home.

loligarchy · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:25 pm GMT Post subject:

Counter Manuever
Apparition: 1 Melee
Apparition: 1 Melee
Apparition: 1 Save
Apparition: 1 Melee
Death Mage: 2 Save
Death Mage: 3 ID
Ghost: 3 Save
Heucava: 3 Melee
Lich: 4 Cantrip
Lich: 4 Cantrip
Wraith: 1 ID
Wraith: 1 Melee

4 +8 =12 so it stays at 2

Turn Sequence: Lazyhaze, Loligarchy

Turn 4 Loli

	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	*****************
	Lazyhaze BUA		Lazyhaze DUA		Lazyhaze Reserve Army	Lazyhaze Summoning Pool
*
	Lazyhaze		Lazyhaze		Lazyhaze Home Army
	Loligarchy's Home (Standing Stones)		Frontier (Castle)		Lazyhaze's Home (City)
	Loligarchy Home Army		Loligarchy		Loligarchy (x2 Restless Dead)
*
	Loligarchy Reserve Army		Loligarchy Summoning Pool		Loligarchy DUA	Loligarchy BUA

loligarchy · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:00 pm GMT Post subject:

Initial Effects
Restless Dead ends

First March
Reserve Magic
Leopard Rider: 3 ID
Leopard Rider: 3 ID
Revenant: 3 Melee
Wraith: 1 ID

Wow ok real shame I didn't have them at a terrain...
I will path one of the wraiths in my Horde Army to my home and cast stoneskin on my Horde Army

Second March
Apparition: 1 Magic
Apparition: 1 Melee
Apparition: 2 Magic
Apparition: 2 Magic
Death Mage: 3 Maneuver
Death Mage: 2 Save
Heucava: 3 Melee
Lich: 4 Cantrip
Lich: 4 Cantrip
Wraith: 2 Maneuver

13 Magic
Cast Night Moves on the wraith I just pathed to my home, he turns the die up to 7
Bury your Scorpian Knight with Ashes to Ashes

Reserves
My existing reserve forces reinforce my lone wraith at my home
I move all of my units at your Home back to my Reserves

Turn Sequence: Lazyhaze, Loligarchy

Turn 4 Lazy

	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	*****************
	Lazyhaze BUA		Lazyhaze DUA		Lazyhaze Reserve Army	Lazyhaze Summoning Pool
*
	Lazyhaze		Lazyhaze		Lazyhaze Home Army
	Loligarchy's Home (Standing Stones)		Frontier (Castle)		Lazyhaze's Home (City)
	Loligarchy Home Army		Loligarchy		Loligarchy
*
	Loligarchy Reserve Army		Loligarchy Summoning Pool		Loligarchy DUA	Loligarchy BUA

TheLazyhase · common Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 208

First march at my home.

Maneuver unopposed to 3.

Magic :
Ashbringer: 3 ID
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Red Dragonfoal: 1 Melee
Red Dragonfoal: 1 Maneuver
Red Dragonmount: Belly
Salamander: 4 Smite
Scorpion Knight: 4 Melee
Shadowchaser: 1 Save
Sunburst: 1 Magic
Sunflare: 2 Magic
Troll: 4 Maneuver

18 red.
14 for two blue/red dragon at your home.
3 to resurrect the scorpion rider to my army.

The troll, the salamander, the infiltrator, the scorpion knight, and the newly ressurected scorpion rider go to reserve.

End of turn.

Roll for dragon :
Blue/Red Hybrid Wyrm: Tail, Jaws
Blue/Red Hybrid Wyrm: Tail, Belly

18 damages, ouch. Will this terrain become the graveyard of magical items ?

loligarchy · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:47 pm GMT Post subject:

Wow and here I just went ahead and made basically the same miscalculation you did. God that hurts

Dragon Attack
Gold Medallion: 4 Sortie
Leopard Rider: 3 ID
Leopard Rider: 3 Save
Revenant: 2 ID
Wraith: 1 Melee
Wraith: 1 ID
13 saves max, which still means 5 points of damage and I can't kill the dragon without killing all my units. Its a sobering thought to realize that even with that roll, should you have gotten anything but a belly my entire army would still be dead.
so I lose a leopard rider and my two wraiths

Turn Sequence: Lazyhaze, Loligarchy

Turn 5 Loligarchy

	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	*****************
	Lazyhaze BUA		Lazyhaze DUA		Lazyhaze Reserve Army	Lazyhaze Summoning Pool
*
	Lazyhaze		Lazyhaze		Lazyhaze Home Army
	Loligarchy's Home (Standing Stones)		Frontier (Castle)		Lazyhaze's Home (City)
	Loligarchy Home Army		Loligarchy		Loligarchy
*
	Loligarchy Reserve Army		Loligarchy Summoning Pool		Loligarchy DUA	Loligarchy BUA

First March
Manuever the terrain up to 8 unopposed
Attempt Magic Action
Gold Medallion: 4 Flurry
Leopard Rider: 3 Save
Revenant: 2 Melee
Fail at magic action, guess I used up all my luck at the beginning of the round.

Second March
Reserve Magic
Apparition: 1 Melee
Apparition: 2 Magic
Apparition: 1 Melee
Apparition: 1 Melee
Death Mage: 4 Cantrip
Death Mage: 3 Maneuver
Ghost: 3 Save
Lich: 3 Save
Lich: 3 Magic
Wraith: 2 Maneuver
9 Magic
Rez the Leopard Rider

Reserves
All units to the standing stones. Its time for another round of dragons Sad

Turn Sequence: Lazyhaze, Loligarchy

Turn 5 Lazy

	*****************	**	*****************	**	*****************	*****************
	Lazyhaze BUA		Lazyhaze DUA		Lazyhaze Reserve Army	Lazyhaze Summoning Pool
*
	Lazyhaze		Lazyhaze		Lazyhaze Home Army
	Loligarchy's Home (Loligarchy)		Frontier (Castle)		Lazyhaze's Home (City)
	Loligarchy Home Army		Loligarchy		Loligarchy
*
	Loligarchy Reserve Army		Loligarchy Summoning Pool		Loligarchy DUA	Loligarchy BUA

TheLazyhase · common Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 208

First march, magic in reserve.
Infiltrator: 5 Melee
Salamander: 4 Melee
Scorpion Knight: 2 Maneuver
Spider Rider: 1 Maneuver
Troll: 4 Smite

Second march.
No maneuver, I hope to use some magic to save my dragon and/or force you to lose some unit.

Magic :
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 3 ID
Ashbringer: 3 Magic
Ashbringer: 3 ID
Shadowchaser: 1 Maneuver
Sunburst: 2 Maneuver
Sunflare: 2 ID

It can create 22 red magic I believe. ~~9 point to bury your Leopard Rider, 12 for 6 Ash Storm to your home.~~ Looked at the wrong board. Bury the two units for 6 and 8 ash storms instead. (I think I would have done 11 ash storm, but now I have seen my dragon roll, it seem mean)

Dragon roll :
Blue/Red Hybrid Wyrm: Tail, Jaws
Blue/Red Hybrid Wyrm: Jaws

WHAT. 27 damages. Note the first dragon which have done a breath, a jaw, and a tail+jaws ; it seem to like eating undead.