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[Drachenwurfel]

Chuck told us the 2.8 rules make some "minor changes" to some SAI's
I don't think the change on trample is a minor one, its a real big thing!
Is it possible you give us a hind for the changes, so we don't miss other so big changes?
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[cliffwiggs]

We saw a similar reaction while we were considering the change.

I'm curious what do you expect the one word change to have in the game?

As I can see it only affects four dice and only in a handful of rolls: Dragon Attack, Charge SAI, Coil...

Be specific.
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[chuckpint]

There was a long discussion about this. There was really no reason to rehash all those again....
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[Drachenwurfel]

For people that don't found the change, and Play against an army with a Behemoth and a couple of dice, its a ral big change.
For the future, why don't you simpley name the SAI's that have changed?
Then i can easily find the change for myself.
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[DialFforFunky]

Trample change? I seemed to have missed something... (downloading new rules as we speak).


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[chuckpint]

Ok, OK. You now have a DETAILED listing of everything that changed....
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Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

[TheLazyhase]

[Drachenwurfel]

Oh, its simple why its a big thing.
Think at First, you don't have seen the change.
At second your opponent has an Army with two Behemoth and Four mammoth Rider.
At third this is all at a highland with Opponent has the eight Face.
Now he Rolls his Dice, one Behemoth has Charge, all other Dice Trample.
Your Face - priceless...

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[DEEPBLUEB2]

Rend/Racial

Perhaps the original design was to allow rend on the crocosaur to count as saves (via ratial maneuvers) in the swampland, rend to count as saves on the gryphon in coastland same way, and rend on the chimera to be able to count as missiles...
all the same way trample has been worded to allow this very thing.

Now trample allowed this before the new modification,
I'm just thinking that perhaps...perhaps the original design was to allow these unit's rends to count the same way fly or trample does,
but it sort of got lost in translation.

So basically,
if simplification is the desired concept,
it would be simpler if this (rend counts the same way trample and fly does)
was how the rules worked.

As it is,
sure I understand why it does not work,
but it takes some extra thought to see this...

Seeing how simple the new trample is written,
it has an underlying reason to it.
(Charge)

So that's how I feel...
I think rend on thise units was simply dismissed even though as I said...
I think the original design might have been to have the racail abilities work.
This is just a personal view.

OK

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[TheLazyhase]

Because of course, Rend is not powerful enough. I also propose that you bury automatically one opposing dice for each rend icon, while we're at it.

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