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Dragon Staff reroll ability

 
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Gregorius
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:19 am GMT    Post subject: Dragon Staff reroll ability Reply with quote

Question from our last game:

Dragon Staff rolls a Summon Dragon SAI but there isn’t any another Dragon at the Summoning Pools: can use the die re-roll ability?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:30 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume there are dragons in play? If that is the case you can summon one of those to another terrain if they match the color of the staff and if they are not Ivory. Other than that i guess the roll would just have no effect.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:58 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can resummon a dragon to the same terrain or to a different terrain, or wrest control from a Dragonlord/master. The dragon does not need to be in the summoning pool; the SAI follows the same rules as the Summon Dragon spell. The SAI always rerolls during a magic action.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:08 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
The SAI always rerolls during a magic action.


And I just learned something today. Though its not often i use magic items Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:32 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

piMaster wrote:
You can resummon a dragon to the same terrain or to a different terrain, or wrest control from a Dragonlord/master.


Except if every dragon are ivory hybrid and on the terrain, of course.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:15 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the elemental color of the ivory hybrid matches the color of the dragon staff, then the summon dragon SAI can affect them. It doesn't matter if they are in a summoning pool or at a terrain.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:25 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what is if:

rolled the SAI and

I'm in my Home and the Frontier terrains and I haven't any other Dragon in the Summoning pool and I don't want resummon a Dragon from the Home terrain of my enemy.
I have to summon a Dragon to one of my terrain to use the re roll ability or not?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:09 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case, you simply choose a dragon that is at your enemy's home terrain and resummon it to the same terrain. Basically a do nothing operation, but it fulfills the requirements of the SAI.

The reroll always occurs. Even if you rolled the SAI on a red dragonstaff and no one brought any red or red-hybrid dragons, the staff still gets rerolled.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:31 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks the replies!

In that way the Dragonstaff Arifact the most powerful dice in the game, don't you think?

Always can use the reroll effect even no matching color dragon.
If I roll SummonDragon 3 times that is 21 magical point (from normal summon points) but the die cost to bring to play only 4 points.
I think this is extreme, is there any army conception from I can leave out this brutal and vere useful die??

Thanks,
Greg
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:36 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gregorius wrote:
If I roll SummonDragon 3 times
which would only happen once in 125 rolls and requires you to be in magic.

I made an army once with 4 dragon staffs. It does well if they leave you alone in magic. It does very poorly in missile or melee.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:30 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks the info and the tip,
someday I will try out this conception with 4 DragonStaff Very Happy
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