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chuckpint · Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:41 pm GMT Post subject:

Oops, uploaded a slightly older version. Correct one is up there now.

If it's not clear on the shell that two shells together deflect a boost of 3, what do you think I should change? Best I can think of is: "Shell: A daemon’s Shell is a deflect with one built-in boost. This can be boosted with pluses or deflects, including Shells (which would boost by 2)."
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:26 pm GMT Post subject:

we could edit this thing forever, but eventually we do need to print.

chuckpint · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:11 pm GMT Post subject:

Ok, I'll fix. But I gotta get this printed and out. I'll have all the dice, boxes, and hangers ready by Sunday. If I print this on Monday, I can get this started on Tuesday.

Editing now. I'll post when I have those updates in the document.
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chuckpint · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:46 pm GMT Post subject:

OK, updated in place. Besides the "stun attack" change, I also changed Plus and Wound, to make it more clear that Pluses can't bring back wounded dice. I also made a change to Frost's power. I wanted to cut off an interaction between Rot and Frost. Should be clear when you see it.
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:52 pm GMT Post subject:

Read over those changes and they look good. A little more clarity never hurt anyone.

Now go print it before I start reading it again, so we can get it to Aldo, so we can get paid, so we can release the next set...
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:58 am GMT Post subject:

I've collected all the comments into this one document for final review.

Note: I included Frost and Rot so we can list all 8 together, but they can't change.

Steve, Wanna take your hand at writing something for the initial flavor text better than my one sentence?

Is the Blood/Fester exclusion worded appropriately?

Ultimately this should be the same size as the dragon dice booster rule sheets (front and back). If it must be bigger, then we could add something to advertise the expansion concept.

if your browser is going to cache this, make sure the date on the last line of the document is 20140418

http://www.sfr-inc.com/daemondice/DaemonDiceBoosters.pdf
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chuckpint · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:29 am GMT Post subject:

I think you have the Blood/Fester timing backwards. We were going to follow the sequence of play to resolve timing issues. So Recover would happen before Suffer.

I like how the Fire is completely negated by the Frost power. Not sure we planned that, but it works. Now the question is: does the Wraith power completely negate the Death power?

Stench: I'd add at the end of last sentence: "during the Suffer Stuns & Wounds phase".

Wraith: It sounds like (but is not completely clear) that the Wraith player gets to pick which minus is ignored. Also note: the way it's worded, it would completely negate a Lung.
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:48 pm GMT Post subject:

chuckpint · Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 7:52 am GMT Post subject:

I need to get this finished soon. I hope to take this over to Shore next Tuesday to start packaging Fester. Also, I'll reformat it, but it all has to fit on two sides of a 3" x 5" sheet. Yes, I found paper precut to that size and I'm going to use it for boosters rules.

Steve, if you could throw a little flavor text at the beginning, that would be great.
http://www.sfr-inc.com/daemondice/DaemonDiceBoosters.pdf

I'll update the date and version when I'm done reformatting.
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:57 am GMT Post subject:

3 by 5? wow, seems like a lot of text for something that small. Looking forward to seeing it.
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ddicerc · Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 7:18 pm GMT Post subject:

Here's some flavor text, Cliff. I used "pits of Gehenna" because that's what I called them in "The Chronicles of Sheol," but you can change it to something more generic.
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In the halls of Hell, the daemon lords continue their battles for supremacy. Looking for any advantage they can find, they scavenge parts from new, powerful breeds of daemons to send into the Infernal Arena. Festering boils, searing flames, foul stenches, and other new features start to appear on the nightmarish warriors of the Arena. These new breeds also lead to the creation of a wide variety of half-breeds and even mongrel daemons, with their own hybrid strengths. Now you too can pick through the pits of Gehenna for new breeds of daemons to power your own chthonic creations.
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 9:33 am GMT Post subject:

Chuck, as you do the layout of the rules let us know if this all fits or if you need it slightly smaller.
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chuckpint · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:49 am GMT Post subject:

I made it all fit (i.e. some of the fonts are a bit small). I found some 3" x 5" paper and while both my printers said they could handle that small a paper size, they can't when it's thin paper. So I when to a local print shop to print 5,000 copies. Cost $148.92 (or about 3 cents a sheet).

Fester will get packaged up in mid-July when I get back from Boy Scout summer camp. That will be about a month before GenCon. Do we want to put it up for pre-order then?
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:56 am GMT Post subject:

piMaster · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:55 pm GMT Post subject:

cliffwiggs · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:36 am GMT Post subject:

I'd have to look at the timing, but that comment might've been about the previous version of Frost.

However, either way you are correct about the timing and while we tried to catch and be explicit about these types of things, the generic rule being in the starter was to catch the ones we missed.

I've always expected one was slightly strong than the other (when against each other).

Just like Frost vs Rot, they aren't exactly equal.
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piMaster · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:43 am GMT Post subject:

A question occurs regarding the interaction between Rot and Fester (because I know Cliff so enjoys my musings... Mr. Green

).

Say Rot goes thru his turn as normal and has some attacks arrayed against Fester. Rot activates his ability and causes one of Fester's stunned body parts to be wounded. This in turn causes Rot to immediately suffer a stun. Suppose this stun takes out Rot's last body part. Does that mean that Rot immediately loses or does he wait until his next turn? The rules give two specific spots to check for defeated daemons - roll and suffer damage. Rot's ability does not fall into either of these steps.

Suppose a similar situation as above, except Rot still has one body part that's not stunned/wounded, but it is being held by Fester's tentacle. It is possible that Rot's attacks could take out the tentacle and free his body part before his next turn starts, enabling Rot to stay in the game.

cliffwiggs · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:41 am GMT Post subject:

chuckpint · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:12 am GMT Post subject:

The Booster rules sheets have been printed. Festers are being boxed up now. Here's the final rules: http://sfr-inc.com/DaemonDiceBoosters3x5.pdf

When you read through this, you see that Fester does NOT cause the Rot to take a Stun immediately. It happens after the Fester suffers all its stuns and wounds. So it's possible for a Rot to take out the last body part of the Fester, and then in turn get its last body part taken out. Since the starter rules state that you lose as soon as you lose the last body part during the suffer stuns and wounds phase, the Frost would lose before affecting the Rot. In a multi-player I suppose that the two could take each other out and leave other players to "not lose".
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My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

cliffwiggs · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:30 pm GMT Post subject:

Pi's entire question is based on the Rot ability taking an already stunned die and making it wounded would trigger Fester.

This would thus happen at the very end of the Rot player's turn. it's not During the 'suffer' phase at all.

he's being very nit-picky with time slices.

I think that most players would just resolve it however and move on and not think about it half as much as we are.

it is very rare for two players to be that evenly matched.

Cliff
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