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[stormywaters]

[chuckpint]

If you are serious, then yes. However, we just made more Scalders (they will be back in stock by June). So it may be awhile....

If you are really serious and have that much money, PM me.
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[cliffwiggs]

[stormywaters]

PM sent

[shoesan]

No new molds to change rarities please...
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[DScottOBrien]

[chuckpint]

Would it make any difference if we changed the ink color again?
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Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

[DScottOBrien]

[cliffwiggs]

[chuckpint]

Or would it make more sense to change the rare mold, so all the rares had equal rarity?
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First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

[Cat]

I'm in this for playing the game and not for chasing rare dice, so from that perspective any or all of Chuck's thoughts are good:

Different ink colours are fine and make no difference to me.

Replacement units would be fine, and bonus points if they're done with an eye towards enhancing desirable playability.

Equallised rarities increases my chances of acquiring more dice variety. While I'm not going to chase down rare dice, I appreciate having a wider assortment on hand to choose from when building armies.
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[shoesan]

Simply changing the ink color while also changing the rarity would not make it OK from my perspective. It is a collectible dice game, and there are certain dice that are simply hard to get. That is just part of the deal. In retrospect, the rarity may not be what most people would have went with for Scalders, Frostwings, and Swamp Stalkers, but it is what it is. I don't like changing the rarity of something that collections have been built over nearly 20 years.

Part of the value of those hard to get dice is tied to being able to field them in a game. Increasing their availability, even with an ink color change, still negatively impacts the value of the originals.
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[DScottOBrien]

[shoesan]

[stormywaters]

I would prefer the Inferno but inked differently. That makes the "old" Inferno still collectible, as it is still incredibly rare, but it means that players have access to the new-ink Inferno that is more common.

Keep in mind, I also went to a lot of work and spent a lot of money to get the Infernos I have, but I want this to be fair and with magic being as dominant as it is, I don't want a leg-up because I spent a ton of money on packs.

As for a new magic rare, I don't mind that, but I don't want to see it be a lesser version of Inferno (like replacing saves with missiles). I'd prefer a side-grade, not a down-grade. Maybe two smaller Cantrip faces, replacing the four-Cantrip and two-magic face? Or a new, solid Magic SAI (though it'd have to be good to replace Cantrip)?

[shoesan]

[Cataphract]

Hello! This is my first post here. I just wanted to chime in because I have some experience with economics and rarity.

First of all, if MtG or the vintage toy market has taught me anything, it's that re-making a thing generally increases the value of the vintage version of that thing. By exposing new clientele to something they had no access to before, it makes them investigate the item more closely. While this isn't guaranteed, one way that could guarantee increased value in the old item would be to change the ID art for the "new" die; changing the color may help as well, but having an "exclusive" ultra rare art on the face of the die will make it massively more desirable as a status symbol.

Note that this does nothing for those of you who don't want it re-cast because you like to be "special" in that you have a really rare thing, of course.

Also note I have zero interest in Scalders, so I'm not saying this out of a desire to get the rare thing.

[danilo]

[chuckpint]

Ok, here's where this all is at: It was a huge mistake by TSR to make any race with have different rarities for any die that is not a monster. Only two races have this problem: Frostwings and Scalders. And it's not just the magic unit. Here's the rarity breakdown, the mold holds 70 dice, the number is the number of cavities in the mold for that die:

	Missile	Calvary	Heavy	Light	Mage
Frostwings	22	6	26	14	2
Scalders	26	14	6	22	2

So here's an idea. We remake the mold (someday, this is not a high priority), and change the rarity to flat. We still make the current mage, but add a new die.

Missile	Calvary	Heavy	Light	Mage(old)	Mage(new)
14	14	14	14	2	12

So the old very rare die is still available. But there is a new die that replaces it (and maybe is cooler). We can adjust those numbers. For example, instead of the new die being 12, make it 14, and make two other dice at 13 (like the 2 that were at 26 and 22 before). That makes it close to flat, yes we have 6 die, and yes we are not affecting the rarity of the "collectable" die.

BTW, my first thought is to replace the Cantrip side with Cloak. Otherwise leave it the same. We could talk about an entirely new SAI that does magic. But I like the idea of not introducing a new SAI.
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First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

[danilo]

it sounds like a good way to deal with that.

now the collectors will be p****d of because they have a new die to catch for those darned Scalders and Frostwings, g** ****** them



seriously, I think no one could possibly complain, except my wife if she only knew