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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:17 am GMT Post subject: Is 'count as' affecting an SAI? |
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Example: Cloak under a Necromantic Wave
Spells can not 'affect' SAI's, thus you can't double or halve via a spell, but is 'count as' affecting it?
This would be the same ruling as a Trample under the Amazon ability. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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chuckpint White Dragon SFR President Site Admin
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 9187 Location: Evanston, IL

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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:34 am GMT Post subject: |
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It's the same thing of converting results not individual icons. So Cloak generates magic during any non-save roll. Those magic results are added up with all other normal magic results. Then those results are converted to melee. Important thing is that it is not converting anything other than results. Trample and Amazon missile at Flatland is the same reasoning.
The SAI that gets the closest to the line of affecting other SAIs is Galeforce. I remember us going back and forth about that for quite some time before we decided it was ok. _________________ You can never have too many dice.
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:36 am GMT Post subject: |
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ear mark. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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BBrauser dragonsteed
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:21 pm GMT Post subject: |
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So if no SAI's results (neither normal nor special) can be affected by spells, other SAIs nor dragon breath, Elevate could not be use to target a unit rolling Counter or fly to double its save results, correct? _________________ Bryan Brauser
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chuckpint White Dragon SFR President Site Admin
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:32 pm GMT Post subject: |
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That is correct. Most people assume that "not effecting" means only bad things don't affect an SAI. Good things also don't affect an SAI. One that seems to come up a lot is Burning Hands. No it cannot affect (for example) a Trample. _________________ You can never have too many dice.
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