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DiverDoug1978 common
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:46 am GMT Post subject: Cliff Vs Doug - Single Race Constructed 30 HP |
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Doug's Army
Behemoth
Behemoth
Wizard
Wizard
Theurgist
Theurgist
Mammoth Rider
Pony Rider
Pony Rider
Marksman
Sentry
Crossbowman
Sergeant
Footman
Footman |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:59 am GMT Post subject: |
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Here is one I haven't played in a while. You will learn that a lot of my armies are min/max and either win or lose, but always short games.
Summoning Pool:
Green Drake
Blue Drake
Home: Flatland Tower
14 * Amazon Runner (Common Light Melee)
Frontier: Flatland Standing Stones
1 * Amazon Runner (Common Light Melee)
Horde:
15 * Amazon Runner (Common Light Melee)
I finished my presentation early, so I'll start the board. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:00 pm GMT Post subject: Re: Cliff Vs Doug - Single Race Constructed 30 HP |
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| DiverDoug1978 wrote: | Doug's Army
Behemoth
Behemoth
Wizard
Wizard
Theurgist
Theurgist
Mammoth Rider
Pony Rider
Pony Rider
Marksman
Sentry
Crossbowman
Sergeant
Footman
Footman |
FYI - Need to split it into three pieces and I need two terrains and what dragons? _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:08 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Also, I think I only count 29 in your list...
Turn Sequence: TBD
| * | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | **
| | Cliff
BUA
| | Cliff
DUA
| | Cliff
Reserve Army
| | Cliff
Summoning Pool
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| | Cliff
Horde
| | Cliff
Campaign
| | Cliff
Home Army
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| | Doug's Home
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| | Proposed Frontier
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| | Cliff's Home
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| | Doug
Home Army
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| | Doug
Campaign
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| | Doug
Horde
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| | Doug
Summoning Pool
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| | Doug
Reserve Army
| | Doug
DUA
| | Doug
BUA
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DiverDoug1978 common
Joined: 14 Jan 2015 Posts: 174 Location: Woodbridge VA

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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:00 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Sorry I completely forgot that .
Dragons
Red/Gold Hybrid Wyrm and Drake
Terrain
Home Terrain - Highland Standing Stones
Proposed Frontier Terrain - Highland Temple
Home
Behemoth
Wizard
Theurgist
Sentry
Sentry
Crossbowman
Sergeant
Footman
Campaign
Pony Rider
Horde
Behemoth
Pony Rider
Theurgist
Wizard
Mammoth Rider
Marksman
Footman |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:16 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Hybrid Dragons are technically an expansion, but I'll allow it.
Let's play!
Turn Sequence: TBD
| * | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | **
| | Cliff
BUA
| | Cliff
DUA
| | Cliff
Reserve Army
| | Cliff
Summoning Pool
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| | Cliff
Horde
| | Cliff
Campaign
| | Cliff
Home Army
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| | Doug's Home
| | Proposed Frontier
| | Cliff's Home
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| | Doug
Home Army
| | Doug
Campaign
| | Doug
Horde
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| | Doug
Summoning Pool
| | Doug
Reserve Army
| | Doug
DUA
| | Doug
BUA
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:19 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Cliff's Horde Roll
Runner - 1 ID
Runner - 1 ID
Runner - 1 Melee
Runner - 2 Maneuver
Runner - 2 Maneuver
Runner - 2 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Missile
Runner - 1 Missile
Runner - 1 Missile
Runner - 1 Save
Runner - 1 Save
Runner - 1 Save
Runner - 1 Save
That comes to: 10 Maneuvers
Exactly average! (I'm a math geek too-FYI) _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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DiverDoug1978 common
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:39 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Doug's Horde Roll
Wow
Behemoth - 4 Save
Mammoth Rider - 3 Trample
Wizard - 4 Magic
Marksman - 2 Missile
Footman - 1 Melee
Pony Rider - 1 Melee
Theugist - 1 ID
4 maneuver (1 ID + 3 Trample) |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:30 pm GMT Post subject: |
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With the winning horde roll, I get the choice to go first or select the terrain.
I will choose to go first.
I will assume you will choose your terrain.
I roll my home and it comes up as: Flatland Tower - 6 Melee
You roll your terrains and I'll take the first turn. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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DiverDoug1978 common
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:35 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Doug's Home Terrain - Highland Standing Stones - 5
Frontier Terrain - Highland Temple - 7 (Turn Down to 6) |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:53 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Beginning of Cliffs Turn
| * | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | **
| | Cliff
BUA
| | Cliff
DUA
| | Cliff
Reserve Army
| | Cliff
Summoning Pool
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| | Cliff
Horde
| | Cliff
Campaign
| | Cliff
Home Army
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| | Doug's Home
Standing Stones
| | Proposed Frontier
Temple
| | Cliff's Home
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| | Doug
Home Army
| | Doug
Campaign
| | Doug
Horde
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| | Doug
Summoning Pool
| | Doug
Reserve Army
| | Doug
DUA
| | Doug
BUA
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:55 pm GMT Post subject: |
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First March at your home
Maneuver attempt
Runner - 1 ID
Runner - 1 ID
Runner - 1 ID
Runner - 1 ID
Runner - 1 Melee
Runner - 1 Melee
Runner - 1 Melee
Runner - 1 Melee
Runner - 2 Maneuver
Runner - 2 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Missile
Runner - 1 Save
Runner - 1 Save
10 maneuvers _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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DiverDoug1978 common
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:09 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| I'll Allow Maneuver to 6th Face |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:14 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| DiverDoug1978 wrote: | | I'll Allow Maneuver to 6th Face |
So this is an important point.
I declare my desire to maneuver. You don't know if I'm going up or down (or going to bring in a minor terrain).
You have to decide if you want to stop me or allow me to do it before you know what I want to do.
So you can say you don't want to contest my maneuver, but you are allowing my to make any choice I want.
so... still want to let me go uncontested? _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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DiverDoug1978 common
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:16 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Hmmmmmmm. Now you got me thinking. |
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DiverDoug1978 common
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:23 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Ok. I am torn between going with my call because of fairness ( I called no contest so I should stick with it) or take the learning lesson and contest it now that I've thought about the strategy that I can actively prevent you from making a planned move and have a chance at control.... HMMMM... what to do...
I'll contest the Maneuver attempt...Sorry Cliff!!!
Behemoth - 4 Stomp
Wizard - 3 Magic
Sergeant - 3 Save
Footman - 1 Melee
Sentry - 1 ID
Sentry - 1 ID
Theugist - 1 ID
Theugist - 1 Save
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:01 am GMT Post subject: |
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No worries. This is a teaching game and I hate to win just because my opponent made an obvious mistake or was just unaware.
3 is actually 6 because of your racial ability, but is still less than 10 anyway.
So the terrain goes DOWN to 4!
But still in missile range.
I will attack your lone common at the frontier in a missile attack.
Runner - 1 Melee
Runner - 1 Melee
Runner - 2 Maneuver
Runner - 2 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Missile
Runner - 1 Missile
Runner - 1 Missile
Runner - 1 Save
Runner - 1 Save
Runner - 1 Save
Runner - 1 Save
3 missile damage, The most it could possibly save is 1. So it is dead no matter what.
Second march - at my Home
Maneuver attempt?
Runner - 1 ID
Runner - 1 ID
Runner - 1 ID
Runner - 1 Melee
Runner - 1 Melee
Runner - 2 Maneuver
Runner - 2 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Maneuver
Runner - 1 Save
Runner - 1 Save
Runner - 1 Save
Runner - 1 Save
10 again. All common armies are just so consistent.
I'll pause here again for you to decide. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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DiverDoug1978 common
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:08 am GMT Post subject: |
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Got it. Dead Crossbowman
Counter Maneuver Roll
Behemoth - 4 Trample
Mammoth Rider - 3 Save
Wizard - 3 ID
Marksman - 2 ID
Footman - 1 Save
Pony Rider - 1 ID
Theugist - 1 Magic
10 Maneuver - TIED! Dang!!! |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:25 am GMT Post subject: |
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Wow that was too close for me and well outside of 1 StdDev for that army...
I'ma risk it.
Turn up to 7.
NO ACTION
Reserves
retreat my horde to the reserves. Leaving my peon at the frontier as a target.
EOT. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:27 am GMT Post subject: |
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Beginning of Dougs Turn
| * | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | ** | ***************** | **
| | Cliff
BUA
| | Cliff
DUA
| | Cliff
Reserve Army
| | Cliff
Summoning Pool
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| | Cliff
Horde
| | Cliff
Campaign
| | Cliff
Home Army
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| | Doug's Home
Standing Stones
| | Proposed Frontier
Temple
| | Cliff's Home
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| | Doug
Home Army
| | Doug
Campaign
| | Doug
Horde
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| | Doug
Summoning Pool
| | Doug
Reserve Army
| | Doug
DUA
| | Doug
BUA
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