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dr heat · Newbie Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 3

Hello all. I've recently learned that a while back someone created a custom set of dice for a Gnome Race, complete with rules and new spells.

I can't seem to find any information on this variant. Does anyone know anything?

chuckpint · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:36 pm GMT Post subject:

The reason you won't find anything is that it really started out as a joke. It was made just for fun and without paying the least bit of attention to playability. But we did try an experiment, and it turns out that it's impossible to make dice with three colors and be recognizable as three distinct colors. Which is the case for Gnomes.
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caranmegil · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:47 am GMT Post subject:

Did Dave Papay ever respond to permission requests to allow public posting of Gnomes? Recently, I came across a copy I had archived for offline viewing (woe were the days of dial up and one phone line). Oh the dry humor they had!
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chuckpint · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:54 am GMT Post subject:

He gave permission. However, I didn't post them on the website for the simple reason that they are not official, nor are they ever likely to be (see comment above as to why). Feel free to repost them to the "User contributed stuff".
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First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

caranmegil · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:01 am GMT Post subject:

It's an entirely understandable position. I'll do that!
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caranmegil · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:25 pm GMT Post subject:

So that the images are not fully lost, here is a link to a slightly modified version (only links) of Dave Papay's Gnomes:

http://www.tabernafaecvm.com/arcanvm/gnomes/index.html

If anyone has a PDF of the champions Avery layout, it would be nice as I did not.
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:18 am GMT Post subject:

wow, love the old pictures. some of the old crew I haven't seen in years...
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caranmegil · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:36 pm GMT Post subject:

And how often was Woolly Rupert summoned?
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papayd · Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:37 pm GMT Post subject: Gnomes reboot?

The original unofficial gnomes kicker was mostly designed for comic relief, but it also tried to counter (slight pun intended, of course) what was, at the time, the over-powerful and over-used "charge attack while under the effects of an open grave". This tactic seriously limited the viable army arch-types you could bring to the table.

Now that charging is no longer part of the game, if I were to do a gnome reboot/redesign, what game effect(s)/tactic(s)/army arch-type(s) do you feel the gnomes should address?

Personally, I'm quite annoyed of by the counter-maneuver rolls of treefolk. No self-respecting gnome would tolerate being constrained in their movement by a bunch of overgrown shrubbery. But that's just one race, and I wouldn't want to make the gnome ability that specialized.

Thoughts? In keeping with the gnomish spirit, the more outlandish, the better.
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papayd · Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:53 pm GMT Post subject: More gnomes

For your enjoyment: A picture of the original set of play-test gnomes (yes, I really did play test these things). The statute of limitations has run out, so I'll thank Rob Harland for helping with the play testing.

The big blue ten-sider at the top is The Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen (aka Wooly Rupert). Gnomes everywhere fear his wrath.

http://home.comcast.net/~papayd/dd/Gnomes/PlaytestDice.JPG
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:24 am GMT Post subject:

Love it!
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D341Jerman · Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:31 pm GMT Post subject:

Oh man! This sounds really interesting to me, but none of the photos work. Anyone have fresh links? Smile

papayd · Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:36 pm GMT Post subject:

Yeah, Comcast decided to do away with personal web hosting space a while back, and I just haven't had the chance to re-post the rules, pics, and die layouts. I'll put it on my list of things to do.
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chuckpint · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:40 am GMT Post subject:

I made a snapshot of Dave's website a while ago. Dave if you don't have a backup, let me know.
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You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count).

papayd · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:45 am GMT Post subject:

Thanks, Chuck. I have all the content - I just don't have a place to post it online. Granted, I haven't looked very hard for one. I'm sure I could probably put it on Google docs easily enough.
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