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hemlocked · dragonfoal Joined: 17 Jan 2018 Posts: 13

So this happened the other night:

My buddy was attacking (melee) with his Undead army.

I had 3 points of Wither active on my army.

I rolled for saves with my Scalder army.

Results were 2pt ID, and 2 dice with 2 pts of save each, for total of 6 save points.

I was excited to get to use my scorching touch now, but didn't know how much damage to send back his way. I know that the ID doesn't count towards scorching touch, but that leaves 4 pts for scorching touch. But with Wither in effect, do I subtract 3 pts from the 4 , or do the 3 come off of the top, before the scorching touch is calculated?

1) I have a total of 6 pts of saves, minus 3 for wither (2 pts coming from the ID I rolled, and 1 pt from the true saves,) leaves 3 points to use as scorching touch back to him. Who choses which 3 results get canceled?

2)I have 6 pts of saves, 4 of which I can use for scorching touch. Subtract 3 for wither, leaves 1 point to use as scorching touch.

3)Both are wrong?

As always, thanks for the help.

chuckpint · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:51 pm GMT Post subject:

#3....

Read closely the Scorching Touch description:

DialFforFunky · rare Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 1992 Location: Groningen

Huh, so you can have all your save results negated and still do damage with scorching touch? Today I learned something new. Neat!

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shepdog69 · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:43 am GMT Post subject:

I was surprised as well. Glad for the clarification
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cliffwiggs · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:54 am GMT Post subject:

We could probably tweak the working of that racial ability to make it more clear.

I know that the terms 'save' and 'save results' were sometimes used interchangeably and in this case were specifically different.
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shepdog69 · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:30 am GMT Post subject:

Maybe like this?

"reduction or elimination of save results through spells or abilities does not reduce the results of this ability"
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jmonnett · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:47 pm GMT Post subject:

In the next revision, we should add “icon” so it says “non-ID save icon”
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Hoses Fly and Counter, though.
Eff it. Let’s just be explicit “save icon, or Fly or Counter SAI”
Not quite right.
“Save icon, or SAI that generates save results (Counter and Fly)”
There it is.

cliffwiggs · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:09 am GMT Post subject:

So what would the entire ability read as?
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