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DiceGamer · Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:13 pm GMT Post subject: Wizards of the Coast DCM

I remember sometime back reading updates to the original DCM on Wizards of the Coast's website. They included changes to the spell lists and a few racial changes such as allowing Feral to either recruit one pointers or promote at the start of each turn. Unfortunately I never printed out the pages and can no longer find these updates on the web. Any chance someone has a listing of these updates to the original DCM? I realize SFR has changed the rules, but my gaming group here in Central Illinois uses the original DCM and its updates exclusively. (Sorry, just can't live without charge!) Any info would be greatly appreciated.

- Justin

slcobbs · Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:42 pm GMT Post subject: Re: Wizards of the Coast DCM

chuckpint · Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:56 pm GMT Post subject:

Well, I do have those rules updates. However, I'm not going to put them up on the SFR website, because I don't want any confusion about which rules are the official ones. However, if a certain website that wants to do something about the history of Dragon Dice wants to post them, I'll be happy to send them to him. Wink

ddicerc · Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:59 pm GMT Post subject:

Well, if I had old rules sets to post, or changes to things like the DCM, I might just find a place for them...

(Seriously, could I get permission from SFR, Mr. SFR sir, to post old rules on my site, which would prevent confusion as to them being official from SFR, if I clearly noted that these were not current rules and were posted for historical purposes only?)
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DiceGamer · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:57 am GMT Post subject: Jackpot

Somehow I knew you guys would be a wellspring of information! Chuck, any chance you could email those to me? noiram79@aol.com

Thanks!,
Justin

chuckpint · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:07 am GMT Post subject:

No, I'm going to let Steve (DDiceRC) clean them up a bit, and post them on his history page. I'm sure he'll announce when they are ready. Sorry to be a PITA about this, but I'm officially trying to kill those rules. Twisted Evil

ddicerc · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:47 pm GMT Post subject:

You might want to look in the "History of DD" thread...but of course, this isn't official.
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DiceGamer · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:58 pm GMT Post subject: Clarification

ddicerc · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:24 pm GMT Post subject:

Chuck can correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as SFR is "officially" concerned all rule sets prior to the current Advanced Rules are dead and will not be supported by SFR (officially). However, as an "unofficial" source who prints lots of disclaimers on the site, the DDRC occasionally finds something that might interest those whose love of Dragon Dice is focused on the past. Take this, for instance:

http://members.aol.com/DDiceRC/DCMrevision0600.html

Might be something of interest to you, Justin.
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chuckpint · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:25 pm GMT Post subject:

Thanks, Steve. You actually summed it up much better than I did.

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ddicerc · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:35 pm GMT Post subject:

You didn't miss it-I just added it a couple of hours ago.
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deputyfife · common Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 322 Location: Missouri

I've got a question about the whole new rules/old rules subject....on boardgamegeek.com, there are some player aid files that can be printed out...including a comprehensive spell list. I printed it out for a friend, and was just wondering if the spell list there is equal to SFR's advanced ruleset, or a previous ruleset, and if so, which one?

Also, I plan on eventually converting my friend over to SFR's rules, because I'm sure they are superior in just about every way. (Such as changing rules regarding undead and swampstalkers to balance the game, and the increased damage numbers for dragons, to make them somewhat effective.) But I like the *idea* of charging. From everything I've read here, though, charging obviously unbalanced the game, so that cavalry and light were inherently more valuable than heavy and missile, especially cavalry. But is there another way to simulate charging in the Dragon Dice world, without unbalancing the various unit types in the game? I have one or two thoughts, but they seem too "fiddly" and intricate to actually use. (such as having the defender's melee icons cause double damage, or not allowing a charge unless the defender has no heavy units.)

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ddicerc · Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:23 pm GMT Post subject:

I don't think so, and even if I did I probably would be missing the graphics files that go with it. I have a pile of old material I've been sifting through, so if I come across it in my searches I'll find a way to link it up.
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DiceGamer · Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:48 pm GMT Post subject: