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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:19 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| stormywaters wrote: | | I think I'm all in to reserves and done with my turn. | ALL? as in abandoning your 8th? _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:23 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| cliffwiggs wrote: | | stormywaters wrote: | | I think I'm all in to reserves and done with my turn. | ALL? as in abandoning your 8th? |
Yeah, I'm not sticking around to face all those Liches and medallions. |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:38 pm GMT Post subject: |
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no one ever lets me have any fun... _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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Matthias Maccabeus rare
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 1551 Location: Nebraska

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:01 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Once again no board update until Sun, but Pi feel free to roll your 2 dragons. I'll still go ahead and take my turn.
Also after reading Wall of Thorns, do medallions count as total health? I have 27 health worth of Dragonnes currently at the terrain, but I also have 24 points worth of items there as well. Would my roll be against 27 or 51? _________________ HeroScape - Tree Town Open Champion (2008, 2016), Nebraska Skirmish Champion (2008, 2010) GenCon LightWeight Champion (2009), GenCon General Wars (Aquilla Champion 2009) GenCon Unique Hero Champion (2009, 2010)
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piMaster rare Stockholder
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3235 Location: Rockford, IL

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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:48 am GMT Post subject: |
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| Wall of Thorns wrote: | | ...causes damage to itself equal to the total health-worth of units in the army |
As one of the people that writes the rules, I'm genuinely curious: is there something in that phrasing that you find to be unclear? I'm pretty sure that its pointed out in the rules that units and items are two seperate things.
Yep, in the magical items rules (page 53 of PDF):
| Rules wrote: | | Magic items are not units. Therefore if the effect only uses the term “units” when talking about the target of the effect, it does not apply to magic items. Magic items are components, and whenever the rules use that term, it applies to magic items as well. |
IMO, items shouldn't have health points to begin with, since they are not alive.
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Dragon rolls:
#1: Treasure
#2: Breath |
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Matthias Maccabeus rare
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 1551 Location: Nebraska

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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:45 am GMT Post subject: |
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| piMaster wrote: | | Wall of Thorns wrote: | | ...causes damage to itself equal to the total health-worth of units in the army |
As one of the people that writes the rules, I'm genuinely curious: is there something in that phrasing that you find to be unclear? I'm pretty sure that its pointed out in the rules that units and items are two seperate things.
Yep, in the magical items rules (page 53 of PDF):
| Rules wrote: | | Magic items are not units. Therefore if the effect only uses the term “units” when talking about the target of the effect, it does not apply to magic items. Magic items are components, and whenever the rules use that term, it applies to magic items as well. |
IMO, items shouldn't have health points to begin with, since they are not alive.
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Yes it is pointed out. But I always double check everything the first time around. I've never run into Wall of Thorns before so I just wanted to make sure. Plus my rule book is 1 version behind and the PC I have on the weekends doesn't like pdfs.
The point is really moot anyway with the blue breath...sigh. Cliff I was going to go for it with the Wall of Thorns and I think I had a really good chance with all the items I had. So you still don't get to see somebody beat it.
Any now onto my turn -
Gold Breath - 1 Knight to DuA
Blue Breath - Dragonne Knight: 3 ID
1st and only March - Magic in Reserves
Dragonne Knight: 2 Save
Dragonne Knight: 6 Maneuver
Dragonne Knight: 2 Save
Nada.
Man tough decisions. If I totally abandon the terrain Pi will just path over. But with the blue breath I'm pretty much just paralyzed and can't even stop Flash Floods with all my ridiculous maneuvers. And he's just going to keep piling dragons on me...
So basically I have to stay there just to stop Pi from getting it though I can't do anything....
Wait after reading Blue Breath again, I don't even get to challenge your maneuver roll do I?
Reserves - 1 Knight to Frontier
Other 2 to Stormy's home. _________________ HeroScape - Tree Town Open Champion (2008, 2016), Nebraska Skirmish Champion (2008, 2010) GenCon LightWeight Champion (2009), GenCon General Wars (Aquilla Champion 2009) GenCon Unique Hero Champion (2009, 2010)
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Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3235 Location: Rockford, IL

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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:23 am GMT Post subject: |
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| Matthias Maccabeus wrote: | | Wait after reading Blue Breath again, I don't even get to challenge your maneuver roll do I? |
Nope. Since stormy pulled out, all i need is four points of magic to path a single unit over there (or use a teleport to put someone there) and automatically win the maneuver attempt on my second march.
Now you know why Chuck loves this army so much...  |
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Matthias Maccabeus rare
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 1551 Location: Nebraska

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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:38 am GMT Post subject: |
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So what are the chances of you rolling less than 4 points of magic with 60 points of dice??
Are you sure you don't just want to melee my Knight that has come over to challenge you?  _________________ HeroScape - Tree Town Open Champion (2008, 2016), Nebraska Skirmish Champion (2008, 2010) GenCon LightWeight Champion (2009), GenCon General Wars (Aquilla Champion 2009) GenCon Unique Hero Champion (2009, 2010)
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piMaster rare Stockholder
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3235 Location: Rockford, IL

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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:44 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Matthias Maccabeus wrote: | | So what are the chances of you rolling less than 4 points of magic with 60 points of dice?? |
Considering half of them are mages, I'd say very very tiny. Plus I've got a 36% chance of getting teleport or two.
| Quote: | Are you sure you don't just want to melee my Knight that has come over to challenge you?  |
Let me think about that...
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Umm, no, I don't think I'll be doing that.
Just to make it official, I rolled and got 17 magic icons and 9 points of ID (but no teleport ). |
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Matthias Maccabeus rare
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 1551 Location: Nebraska

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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:37 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Congrats on the fine finish and win Pi and thanks to everybody for the game. _________________ HeroScape - Tree Town Open Champion (2008, 2016), Nebraska Skirmish Champion (2008, 2010) GenCon LightWeight Champion (2009), GenCon General Wars (Aquilla Champion 2009) GenCon Unique Hero Champion (2009, 2010)
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:51 am GMT Post subject: |
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Since an 8 was abandoned to me, Pi had to win or I would've  _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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