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dougelf dragonsteed
Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Posts: 62 Location: michigan

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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:49 am GMT Post subject: Open Grave |
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Is the spell:
Open Grave Casting Cost: 6 Spell List: Basic
Target any army. Until the beginning of your next turn, for any army-targeting effect that causes damage to the target
army, any units taken as casualties immediately go to the reserve area rather than the DUA. Multiple castings target
multiple armies.
Is it to over powered?
I want to bring it up since every time i have faced an opponent they have always had issues getting past it.
Mind it the people i am up against are not Vetrans most are brand new to the game like me.
The only ways around it are through SAI's, Direct Unit spells and just spending 9 Magic to Spell blast it.
Example would be last tournament I played in the person who used Feral's I had to explain after the 3rd time they cast backlash that they where just forcing me to use 6 magic on my army and then my 5 Necromancers where just getting a free round of lets see if they can roll cantrip and since they would go to the reserves if i took casualties i could just use the troops that where just dropped in there for my 2nd maneuver to roll magic before i reinforced them once again back to the terrain or to another i wanted to.
It is a nasty spell to say the least and since it is a basic one all Death races have access to it.
I am curious on how others feel about it since using that one spells shuts down a lot of options for just 6 Magic which is pretty cheap for what it does. _________________ The answer to all of life's questions is pie. |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:04 am GMT Post subject: |
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I tend to play the death races and lava elf in particular, so I may be biased, but I've never seen it as a problem.
Cantrip is something you have to be careful about. it is sometimes better NOT to do something so that you don't risk your opponent getting a cantrip.
If there were one tweak I would make, it is not to that spell, but to the cantrip SAI itself. I think the game would be improved if more spells were not able to be cast via cantrip. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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shoesan uncommon
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 641 Location: PA

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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:22 am GMT Post subject: Re: Open Grave |
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| dougelf wrote: | Is the spell:
... i could just use the troops that where just dropped in there for my 2nd maneuver to roll magic before i reinforced them once again back to the terrain or to another i wanted to.
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I do not follow what you mean by this. How are you using troops that just got sent to the reserves via Open Grave on a 2nd maneuver? Did you just mean you roll them for magic as a second march? I just wanted to be certain, because if there is actually a second maneuver attempt going on somewhere (as the first phase of a second march), then the troops that just arrived in reserves would not be doing anything to help that cause. _________________ Shoe |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:28 am GMT Post subject: |
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I took it to mean a second march.
People get used to using Backlash and don't think about when it is appropriate NOT to use it. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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dougelf dragonsteed
Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Posts: 62 Location: michigan

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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:15 am GMT Post subject: |
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Sorry i was meaning my 2nd march phase. _________________ The answer to all of life's questions is pie. |
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