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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:43 am GMT    Post subject: Flaming Shield Reply with quote

What does a flaming shield during a dragon attack do?

Attack, defense, or both?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:52 am GMT    Post subject: Armor Reply with quote

Well, Flaming Armor just increases defense now. I think this is a rework from the DCM, so it would have no attack ability during a dragon attack or any other attack, for that matter -- just double saves.

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Flaming Armor Casting Cost: 4 Spell List: Lava Elf
Target one of your units not already under the effects of a Flaming Armor spell. The target unit’s save results are
doubled. This spell remains in effect until it is used by the unit or until the unit generates non-SAI save results needed
by the army. Multiple castings target multiple units.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:59 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not flaming armor, i mean the new flaming shield ability
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:05 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rulebook p.35 wrote:
For racial abilities that allow one result to be counted as another, during a combination avoidance roll a player must choose each result to be counted as one or the other, not both.

Since the army's roll against the dragon is a combination roll, you can choose whether each Firewalker save icon is to be a save or melee result. It cannot be both at the same time.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:09 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

No RexRanarum, you are confusing the spell Flaming Armor, with the Firewalker saves (aka Flaming Shields).

Again this is a case of general going into specific. Flaming Shields generate saves during a save roll. They generate melee during a melee roll. After a dragon attack, the army roll is a combination roll of melee, missile and saves. Any icon (including SAIs) that generate normal melee missile or save results are counts. Otherwise, an icon only generates results during a dragon attack if it specifically says it does, works during any roll, or works in any non-maneuver roll, or the like.

So in the case of a dragon attack, you can count Firewalker saves as saves or melee (but not both).
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:20 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

that means the flaming shield provides only saves during dragon attacks, right?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:22 pm GMT    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

chuckpint wrote:
So in the case of a dragon attack, you can count Firewalker saves as saves or melee (but not both).


No, it does not always have to be saves, but no, it cannot do both.
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