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Raven Bloodeyes uncommon
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 576 Location: Rochester, NY

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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:21 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Cliffwiggs' turn. Then proceed counter-clockwise.
Which starts with a Dragon Attack:
Ivory Breath so far, Jula will roll Red ones...
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:57 pm GMT Post subject: |
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ok, so we have an ivory breath.
tail,tail,treasure
jaw
where you getting these dragons from?
the treasure helps me not.
the breath takes one dragoon out, ignore the other two damage.
then 18 dragon damage.
Dragonne Knight-2 Save
Dragonne Knight-6 Maneuver
Dragonne Knight-2 Maneuver
Dragonne Knight-6 Maneuver
Dragonne Knight-2 Maneuver
sigh, can't even get a fly to save my life...
18-2 = 16
sigh.. the rest of the dragoons die.
I only have one army now, so roll for magic.
Blazer-3 ID
Blazer-6 Missile
Blazer-2 Maneuver
Blazer-3 Maneuver
Blazer-1 Missile
Burner-3 Missile
Glower-1 Missile
nada to do.
sigh.
reserves, move all my archers out to the coastland tower so that I can be finished off next turn.
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Raven Bloodeyes uncommon
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 576 Location: Rochester, NY

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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:43 pm GMT Post subject: |
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I really wish I had a couple undead with that 6 there... Fade would be so nice... sigh...
Jula's turn. Then proceed counter-clockwise.
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Jula dragonsteed Stockholder
Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 94 Location: Hungary

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:03 am GMT Post subject: |
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So, my Turn:
First march: Reserve magic ( I just give it a try...)
Scorpion Knight - 3 Maneuver
Scorpion Knight - 1 Melee
Nothing.
Second March: No maneuver
Magic Roll:
Raksasha - 4 Melee
Necromancer - 2 Magic
Necromancer - 4 Cantrip
Wyvern Rider - 1 Fly
Wyvern Rider - 4 Melee
Infiltrator - 5 Melee
Infiltrator - 5 Maneuver
Warlock - ID
Warlock - 2 Magic
Scorpion Knight - 1 Melee
Adept - 2 Magic
Adept - 1 Magic
11 non-ID and 2 ID Magic.
Well, be careful now... The more Magic I cast, the more damage I get... If I double the ID magic for Red spells, I'll have 15 Magic results.
Let it be...
I summon my Dragonkin Champion. (12)
I resurrect an Adept from my DUA by casting Spark of Life. (3)
So, I have to save against 15 damage.
Dragonkin Champion - 4 Fly
Raksasha - 4 Maneuver
Necromancer - 4 Cantrip
Necromancer - 5 Magic
Wyvern Rider - 4 Melee
Wyvern Rider - ID
Infiltrator - 5 Melee
Infiltrator - 1 Maneuver
Warlock - 2 Magic
Warlock - 2 Melee
Scorpion Knight - 4 Melee
Adept - 1 Magic
Adept - 2 Magic
Adept - 1 Save
First the Cantrip is resolved.
(Let me ask a question here! I think I know the answer, but it's always better to ask... The rule sais the following: "Saves generated by a Dragonkin’s ID icon are in addition to the Dragonkin’s automatic saves."
As it does not say a word about the saves generated by a DKC's Fly, I am not completily certain about the answer. So, are save results from DKC's Fly SAI in addition to the automatic saves of the DKC? I would say YES as that one would be the logical answer, but could you please verify it for me?)
1. If saves generated by Fly SAI are in addition to the DKC's automatic saves, I use the four magic points of the Cantrip to cast a Spark of Life, resurrecting the other Adept. (One point is left unspent.) Adept is rolled - 1 Magic.
2. If saves generated by Fly SAI are NOT in addition to the DKC's automatic saves, I use the four magic points of the Cantrip SAI to purchase Flaming Armor on the Wyvern Rider rolled it's ID.
Finalizing:
1. 8 save results from SAIs and IDs, 5 saves from "countas", and 4 additional saves from the DKC's automatic saves. 17 in total.
2. If the Fly of the DKC is not in addition, then 6 saves after doubling by Flaming Armor, 5 saves from "countas", and 4 saves from the DKC's automatic saves. In this case it's a total of 15.
Reserve phase:
Scorpion Knights to Raven's Home.
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chuckpint White Dragon SFR President Site Admin
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 9187 Location: Evanston, IL

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:24 am GMT Post subject: |
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The Fly counts as 4 saves (or maneuvers, but you don't need maneuvers right now). Since the dragonkin didn't roll belly, you then get 4 auto-saves.
Basically, all you have to remember with dragonkin, is that if it doesn't roll belly, you get it's auto-saves. The note about the ID is because it's the only way the smaller dragonkin can generate saves. And it can be doubled by an eighth face. The fly on the champion is really no different. _________________ You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count). |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:25 am GMT Post subject: |
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Yes, Saves generated by a Fly are in addition to the autosaves. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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Raven Bloodeyes uncommon
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 576 Location: Rochester, NY

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:02 am GMT Post subject: |
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OK.. my turn...
Recruit Advocate to my City!
Reserve Magic: 10 Magic
Medal.: Wayfare
4 x Hamadryad: 2 Magic, 1 Save, 1 Save, 1 Save
Magi: 4 Cantrip
3 x Apprentice: 2 Magic, 1 Fly, 2 Magic
2 Gold
8 Blue
2 x Wind Walk on the Nymph at my home.
Camouflage on the Nymph at my home.
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2nd March @ my home:
Maneuver Attempt: 9 Maneuvers
Nymph ID + 2 Wind Walks
If both got their BIGGEST move face, they'd generate a maximum of 6 moves. They CAN'T beat me...
So... I move it DOWN to 4!
No other action...
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Reserves:
Out: All to my 8th at subaggut's home.
In: None
End of Turn.
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Raven Bloodeyes uncommon
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 576 Location: Rochester, NY

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:06 am GMT Post subject: |
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subaggut's turn. Then proceed counter-clockwise.
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subaggut dragonsteed
Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 84 Location: Pécs, Hungary

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:25 am GMT Post subject: |
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First March:
A Reserve Magic: No Magic, but one of my trolls regenerated. Bringing back a Leo and a Wardog Rider.
And just for fun: Everybody to Raven's home _________________ (T)roll the dice! |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:27 am GMT Post subject: |
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come on dragons and kill me quick! _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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Raven Bloodeyes uncommon
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 576 Location: Rochester, NY

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:43 am GMT Post subject: |
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Ivory roll: Claw (6 damage)
Waiting for Jula's Red rolls...
(unless you WANT the map, let me know...) |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:44 am GMT Post subject: |
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(unless you WANT the map, let me know...) |
for this turn it matters little. _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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Jula dragonsteed Stockholder
Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 94 Location: Hungary

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:58 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Dragons are rolled:
Wyrm: Tail - reroll - Belly (3 damage, no automatic save)
Drake: Claw (6 damage) |
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Jula dragonsteed Stockholder
Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 94 Location: Hungary

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:08 pm GMT Post subject: |
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2nd March @ my home:
Maneuver Attempt: 9 Maneuvers
Nymph ID + 2 Wind Walks
If both got their BIGGEST move face, they'd generate a maximum of 6 moves. They CAN'T beat me...
So... I move it DOWN to 4!
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Just to keep the rules... I roll my army for counter-maneuver:
Scorpion Knight - 3 Maneuver
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:40 pm GMT Post subject: |
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sigh, I'm gonna survive.
Ivory:claw
Red: Claw
Red: tail/belly
15 damage and a belly
Blazer-3 ID
Blazer-4 Flaming Arrow
Blazer-1 Missile
Blazer-3 Maneuver
Blazer-4 Flaming Arrow
Burner-3 Missile
Glower-1 Missile
13 missle + 3 ID
count 2 ID as missile and 1 as a save.
so two dragons die (both red)
and I take 15-1=14 damage
the only way is 4 Blazers and the Burner.
then the dragon promotion turns the Glower into a Burner.
so I'm left with one blazer, one burner, and an ivory dragon.
turn the terrain up unopposed.
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Raven Bloodeyes uncommon
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 576 Location: Rochester, NY

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:01 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Jula's turn. Then proceed counter-clockwise.
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Jula dragonsteed Stockholder
Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 94 Location: Hungary

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:42 pm GMT Post subject: |
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My Turn:
First March:
Maneuver attempt at my Home:
Dragonkin Champion - ID
Raksasha - 4 Melee
Necromancer - ID
Necromancer - 2 Magic
Wyvern Rider - 2 Melee
Wyvern Rider - 4 Missile
Infiltrator - 1 Melee
Infiltrator - 1 Melee
Warlock - ID
Warlock - 2 Magic
Scorpion Knight - ID
Adept - 1 Save
Adept - 1 Save
Adept - 1 Magic
Adept - 2 Magic
12 in total. Given that the best Raven can generate is 2, I won it.
Turn my Home Terrain one side UP!
Action - Magic:
Dragonkin Champion - Not rolled
Raksasha - ID
Necromancer - 4 Cantrip
Necromancer - ID
Wyvern Rider - ID
Wyvern Rider - 5 Fly
Infiltrator - 4 Counter
Infiltrator - 5 Melee
Warlock - 4 Magic
Warlock - 2 Magic
Scorpion Knight - 3 Maneuver
Adept - 1 Magic
Adept - 1 Magic
Adept - 1 Save
Adept - 1 Maneuver
10 ID and 12 non-ID Magic. What to do...?
All right...
First, 6 non-ID Magic is spent to bury the Marauder in subaggut's DUA.
Then I target Cliffwig's DUA in order to double 3 ID magic. Thus I get 6. This 6 plus 6 from the remaining non-ID magic is spent to bury every single unit in Raven's DUA.
Still have 7 ID Magic. They are doubled so I can purchase 14 points of Red Spells:
- Dancing Lights on Raven's army at subaggut's Home. (6)
- 1 Ash Storm on subaggut's Home. (2)
- Summon two Red Dragontroop. (3+3=6)
Second March:
Maneuver attempt at Raven's Home.
Scorpion Knight - 4 Melee
Scorpion Knight - 2 Maneuver
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subaggut dragonsteed
Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 84 Location: Pécs, Hungary

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:21 pm GMT Post subject: |
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I do.
Marauders 8 Melee
Trolls: 8 Melee
Leo Rider: Rend
Wardog Rider 2 Maneuvers
Total of 5. _________________ (T)roll the dice! |
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Jula dragonsteed Stockholder
Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 94 Location: Hungary

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:26 pm GMT Post subject: |
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All right. Then no Action.
Reserve Phase:
Both Scorpion Knights are moved to the reserves from Raven's Home.
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Raven Bloodeyes uncommon
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 576 Location: Rochester, NY

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:51 pm GMT Post subject: |
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Raven's turn. Then proceed counter-clockwise.
Let's see if I can end this....
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