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Skawilly rare SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 21 Mar 2011 Posts: 1322 Location: Seattle, WA

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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 9:28 am GMT Post subject: New players |
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I just wanted to throw this out there. I was playing with DT and his friend B, who happens to be new, and my girlfriend who is not new exactly but is still in the stage where rolling the dice is all the comes to mind. Any who both of these people got turned off by dice just because of really bad rolls on them and I think its a bummer because it will change their strats around them forever.
With B he rolled something like 5 or 6 melee/saves on the dragon staff in a row and now wont touch it and and with her, she rolled 3 disasters in a row with the minor terrain and says it ruined that game and is a cursed die. Its funny but honestly its crappy for them that they wont use these awesome things because their first experience was no good.
Anyone else have anything going on like this? I mean to say the averages can be misleading very badly and sometimes quite the opposite. |
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piMaster rare Stockholder
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3235 Location: Rockford, IL

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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 9:37 am GMT Post subject: |
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My minor terrains invariably roll disaster as well. Pat's minor terrains seem to roll magic about 90% of the time. Nobody knows how she does that...
Anyhoo, those types of rolls (both good and bad streaks) seem to happen with regularity. That's what you get for playing a dice game  |
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chuckpint White Dragon SFR President Site Admin
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 9187 Location: Evanston, IL

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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:03 am GMT Post subject: |
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My dragons always seem to roll belly. Every time Brad brings out a dragon with blue breath, Brad always get a breath against my army. Usually when it's at 8, and he can steal it.
On the other hand, my Feral mages seem to roll a lot more magic than average. Ask anyone that has played against me. _________________ You can never have too many dice.
First Place at the first ever Daemon Dice sealed starter tournament.
Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Dice, 20,000 Daemon Dice, and others (too many to count). |
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Skawilly rare SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 21 Mar 2011 Posts: 1322 Location: Seattle, WA

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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:07 am GMT Post subject: |
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| Its true that dice can roll funny for anyone. I was just thinking about how a person new to a specific die gets extreme rolls and how it will alter their idea of it. |
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UltimaGabe dragonsteed
Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Posts: 93 Location: Smyrna, TN

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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 3:35 pm GMT Post subject: |
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I taught a couple friends how to play last week, and I had them playing each other (with me moderating) for the first game. I had been telling them how awesome magic could be, but no matter what, neither of them could generate more than 4 magic results in a single roll (so at th end of the game they were both unimpressed). So I joined in the next game, and wiped the floor with them, using magic.
On the topic of terrible rolls, one of the games we played that day (a later game) involved lots of magic and lots of dragon summoning- my friend summoned two dragons on my army, only to have BOTH of them roll belly. I laughed, and in response, rolled THREE melee icons, total, from my melee-heavy army. So no dragons were killed in the making of this story. |
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eggsaladsandwich uncommon
Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 519 Location: West Linn, OR.

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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:15 pm GMT Post subject: |
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I've found that invariably when trying to recruit players, there are 2 types: those who finally gave in to your rampant insistance that they try the game, and those who are genuinely interested and intrigued by the dice. Of group 1, only about 1 in 10 will really get into the game no matter how good they roll. Of group 2 , usually 50 percent will like the game enough to play it more often no matter how bad they roll. Personal observation . _________________ "Another days useless energy spent." Moody Blues |
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marwyn_blackstar dragonsteed
Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 97 Location: TN

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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 9:46 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| chuckpint wrote: | | My dragons always seem to roll belly. |
Fortunately this also seems to happen when someone else summons my dragons on me xD |
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cliffwiggs SFR Treasurer Chief Wheedler SDA - Rules NitPicker
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 10794 Location: Cumming, GA - USA

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:54 am GMT Post subject: |
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| Skawilly wrote: | | Its true that dice can roll funny for anyone. I was just thinking about how a person new to a specific die gets extreme rolls and how it will alter their idea of it. | It alters me. I tend to not do dragons because they always crap out on me. I can summon three dragons and one will roll treasure, one will fly away and one will roll belly. waste of magic... _________________ Multiplayer Champion Gencon11/Battlefest Champion(tied) GenCon10/World Champion GenCon07/National Champion Origins05/Intermediate Champion GenCon02/Novice Champion Origins99 |
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Dr. Oliver Cross dragonmount
Joined: 29 Mar 2011 Posts: 26 Location: Aloha, Oregon

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:00 pm GMT Post subject: |
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And I ignore magic almost entirely because I can roll an entire 36-point army of nothing but Undead mages and come up with a total of one point of magic. (I've done it. On multiple occasions.) _________________ Have Scalders, will travel. (If I can afford it.) |
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ddicerc rare Public Relations Director Esteemed Author
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 3238 Location: East Brunswick, NJ, USA

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:00 pm GMT Post subject: |
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If I based the dice I play on how well they roll for me, I'd play Magic: the Gathering. _________________ Steve "DDice" Braun
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(Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...) |
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Denimwizard common
Joined: 01 Jan 2011 Posts: 356 Location: Maryland

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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 11:12 am GMT Post subject: |
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When I roll dragons it seems i only get wings. I agree with Cliff I rarely spend magic on dragons. Hell this happened last night when I was teaching my sister how to play. I summoned the dragon out to actually play out a dragon phase with her and haha i rolled wings. Not only that my sister actually beat me . |
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UltimaGabe dragonsteed
Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Posts: 93 Location: Smyrna, TN

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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 11:00 pm GMT Post subject: |
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| Denimwizard wrote: | When I roll dragons it seems i only get wings. I agree with Cliff I rarely spend magic on dragons. Hell this happened last night when I was teaching my sister how to play. I summoned the dragon out to actually play out a dragon phase with her and haha i rolled wings. Not only that my sister actually beat me . |
I used to think that Drakes were better than Wyrms until I actually used one. The first time a Wing came up, I vowed to never use another Drake unless I had to (i.e., didn't have enough of the color I wanted). |
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Dr. Oliver Cross dragonmount
Joined: 29 Mar 2011 Posts: 26 Location: Aloha, Oregon

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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:49 am GMT Post subject: |
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Or, you could have the kind of luck I have against, specifically, Dproman. Ask Dave how many times I've erased his entire army with arrows. Or what a dragon looks like when I roll it against him. (Fifteen consecutive tails on a drake and you don't care when it flies away at the end....) _________________ Have Scalders, will travel. (If I can afford it.) |
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